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Ozone hole goes large again

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Post by oyashirochama »

joshuaissac wrote: post #89
Melting_Harps wrote: post #42

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> China, behind the surface, is very anarchic, bejing can make rules all it wants but the local government beyond surface placation won't honor the spirit and restart production of all kind of stuff. While I concede that populations with livable-experience spanning millennia tends to drive Societies in that direction. I think it's more accepting a certain amount of tolerable corruption: China is incredibly corrupt, a…

> The only real experiment of Anarchism that was remotely allowed to stand in China was Kowloon's walled city [0], and to no one's surprise the CCP has been doing everything to hide it's 'shame' and 'colonized' past ever since the uprising in 2019, forcing everyone out and bulldozing the area under 'renovation' and offering the HongKongers little to nothing in return in the process. What exactly do you mean? Kowloon…

The previous comment sounds and reads like an AI written mess unfornately, since contextual history is one of the harder things to throw out with AI and have it get right.

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Post by arrowsmith »

makeworld wrote: post #99
arrowsmith wrote: post #85

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Imagine if we'd invented CFCs but hadn't invented a way to monitor atmospheric O3 levels. We'd have burned the entire ozone layer away before we even realised that anything was wrong.

I wonder if we are currently not monitoring something similar that we should be.

Me too, but I'm far more concerned about the looming catastrophic problems that we are monitoring.

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Post by hardlianotion »

medstrom wrote: post #97
hardlianotion wrote: post #91

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Says a human.

But you are human. Even when you try to care for what non-humans value, you're still doing that because of your human values. You literally can't step outside yourself. It's fair to say that FredPret is evaluating "best" at the same level of zoom as you are.

I don't understand your argument or - to the extent to which I do understand it - I think it does not really apply to my comment.

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Post by 6th »

samtho wrote: post #35
6th wrote: post #6

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Funny that article doesn't mention https://research.noaa.gov/2022/03/09/two-additional-regions-... Were they just asleep?

It does take many years (in the timeframe of decades) for CFCs and other ozone depleting molecules to reach a point where they do damage as it’s heavier than air. 2010 was only 13-14 years ago at this point and those gasses have mostly not made it up that high yet. We won’t know the full scale of the damage that this has done for another 5-15 years. What we are seeing now is a separate event that had likely originate…

Well, if that's the case, I guess I do owe them an apology. I can accept that it is fact I that doesn't know full the situation, to know that we're still yet to feel the effect of all that - that really sucks

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Post by dmichulke »

junon wrote: post #34
dmichulke wrote: post #31

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Yeesh, I don't agree with them but don't put words and ideas in their mouth. What an incredibly unfair comment.

You literally wrote that my kids and I deserve to burn, so there's that.

I don't feel offended because I don't think that was your intention but it was what you said.

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