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Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by donmcronald »

gigel82 wrote: post #77
auspiv wrote: post #10

Geez for the prices listed in the article (153 EUR and 301 EUR), get a TMM (tiny mini micro - https://www.servethehome.com/introducing-project-tinyminimic... ) computer. These are the SFF/USFF off-lease older enterprise computers like Dell Optiplex. Note that ServeTheHome.com does power consumption for every model it reviews. These ~1L sized computers idle in the 7-13W range. Even with EU electricity prices, it would…

Or you can get a brand new N100 mini pc from Amazon for And for GPIO (if really needed) you can always add something like an USB Arduino micro (clone) for a couple of bucks.

These look really cool. The biggest downside is having 100 brands to choose from. It makes me feel like there's a good chance I could pick something that ends up being total e-waste.

Can anyone recommend one?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by SillyUsername »

ianburrell wrote: post #91
baz00 wrote: post #3

They're all shit. Get a Lenovo mini PC off eBay and stick Debian on it. I replaced my shitty Pi with a Lenovo M600. If you want a dependable computer, stay away from pseudo-embedded hardware.

There are multiple uses for the Pi. The mini PC is good are being computer, which Pi really isn't good at. But the mini PC can't do the other uses. For example, the mini PC doesn't run on PoE. It won't fit in enclosure and can't put it on pole outside. But that is what I'm planning to do with Pi for ADS-B receiver. The mini PC doesn't have PPS support or ability to install GPS receiver. That is what I need for Stratu…

Attach a BT or old fashioned wired GPS to it over USB...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by rodlette »

ThatPlayer wrote: post #36
jamesy0ung wrote: post #2

They might be good performance wise, but if you watch the Jeff Geerling video he mentions in the post, it will show you how much trouble he has with it. Custom distros with broken repos, non mainlined outdated kernels.

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend one that doesn't have mainline kernels. But Pine64 does good work on getting stuff upstreamed. The RK3399 used in the PinePhone Pro, the Orange Pi 4, Rock 4, and other boards has proper mainline support. I'm also a fan of the open sourced GPU drivers for that SoC done by the panfrost team that has desktop OpenGL support (not just the ES stuff). Pine64's QuartzPro64 board uses the same RK358…

AFAIK, Pine64 the company don't do any (?) upstreaming.

Upstreaming for Pine64 devices is done by the community: https://lore.kernel.org/all/?q=pine64+rk3399+add

QuartzPro64 was recently mainlined by megous. I don't think he's employed or compensated by Pine64, but I'm not sure.

The SoCs are added by Rockchip, Collabora, and others.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by mekster »

I've stopped shopping for ARM boards when I realized not all docker images support ARM architecture making it hard to install apps that I might want to.

Otoh, Odroid H3 is a quite capable x86 machine and these days parts are so cheap, I bought a quad core Odroid with 32GB mem and 1TB nvme for around $300 and figured I'd retire my cloud server that costs $50+/mo (pitiful 4GB memory) for a much better spec.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by tomcam »

ilyt wrote: post #46
ghusto wrote: post #6

Am I crazy, or are we jumping from 4 to 5 whilst ignoring the fact that most of us still can't get hold of 4 due to the supply chain issues?

I was surprised too, I expected 5 to come next year

Man that’s just bad planning. I would expect them to produce a lot more than that

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by ThatPlayer »

chatmasta wrote: post #51
notRobot wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First two links are resellers, as mentioned in the footers. But yes, Orange Pis have always been a bit shady.

So the third link is the official one? Its footer has some very sketchy looking links, including to two different telegram channels, three aliexpress stores, and some guy's skype username... Then again, we might not even be seeing the same site, since it forces http:// and could be modified in transit by anyone on the path of either of our ISPs and the web host.

In my experience on Aliexpress, 3 stores aren't unusual. Most of the stores I buy from on Aliexpress (mostly 3d printer parts) have at least 2 stores. Even the reputable ones like BigTreeTech which is a pretty popular for 3d printer control boards have at least five stores by my last count. According to them, Aliexpress don't allow multiple accounts to manage a store, so they make a new one for each salesperson.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by MikusR »

auspiv wrote: post #10

Geez for the prices listed in the article (153 EUR and 301 EUR), get a TMM (tiny mini micro - https://www.servethehome.com/introducing-project-tinyminimic... ) computer. These are the SFF/USFF off-lease older enterprise computers like Dell Optiplex. Note that ServeTheHome.com does power consumption for every model it reviews. These ~1L sized computers idle in the 7-13W range. Even with EU electricity prices, it would…

To get one in the EU the price triples at least and usually they simply don't ship here.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by pastage »

SillyUsername wrote: post #112
ianburrell wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are multiple uses for the Pi. The mini PC is good are being computer, which Pi really isn't good at. But the mini PC can't do the other uses. For example, the mini PC doesn't run on PoE. It won't fit in enclosure and can't put it on pole outside. But that is what I'm planning to do with Pi for ADS-B receiver. The mini PC doesn't have PPS support or ability to install GPS receiver. That is what I need for Stratu…

Attach a BT or old fashioned wired GPS to it over USB...

You need to attach the GPS and its PPS pin (Pulse per second) to the gpio on the rpi. Gives you microsecond NTP, pretty cool if you need that. It can be used to sync network, radios and audio over long distances.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 vs. Orange Pi 5 Plus vs. Rock 5 Model B

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Post by bArray »

galangalalgol wrote: post #89
freeopinion wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or less that $1 for a SoC powered by 32-bit RV32IMAFC RISC-V “SiFive E24 Core”.[0] [0] https://pine64.com/product/pineseed-bl602-wifi-ble5-soc/

That $4 dev board looks like it might be an esp32 killer, or at least good competition. I was thinking of the esp32-c3 which is also risc-v with wifi and ble. It currently has really great rust support. You can even build the stdlib for it so you don't have to mess with no_std. The bl602 doesn't seem to have rust support yet, but I'm looking forward to more options.

> I was thinking of the esp32-c3 which is also risc-v with wifi and ble.

I have a couple of the Pine64 boards that run Linux. Unless something changed, it doesn't have WiFi or BLE support, and likely never will.

> The bl602 doesn't seem to have rust support yet, but I'm looking forward to more options.

I think it does: https://github.com/bouffalolab/bl-pac/tree/main/bl808

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