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If the Economy Is So Strong, Why Are Consumer Stocks Tanking?

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Re: If the Economy Is So Strong, Why Are Consumer Stocks Tanking?

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that's not true, these things exist today and they don't stop anyone from investing. What you're trying to say is that it would be less profitable and that may be true but as long as it tracks with inflation it would be worth it as an investment tool.

That’s a big caveat. Inflation is 4-5% officially, bonds are 7-8 ish maybe more for real estate investment. But real estate prices are falling or flat. If you suddenly need to earn even 6% off a house you need to rent it for quite a bit. It might make sense still at the low end (under 250k) but a 500k property needs to rent out for 2500a month to break even. And that’s not including taxes, maintenance, vacancy, admin…

you want what you're saying to be true because you want reality to agree that you're going to make it unprofitable to invest in real estate.

good luck with that.

Re: If the Economy Is So Strong, Why Are Consumer Stocks Tanking?

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a big caveat. Inflation is 4-5% officially, bonds are 7-8 ish maybe more for real estate investment. But real estate prices are falling or flat. If you suddenly need to earn even 6% off a house you need to rent it for quite a bit. It might make sense still at the low end (under 250k) but a 500k property needs to rent out for 2500a month to break even. And that’s not including taxes, maintenance, vacancy, admin…

you want what you're saying to be true because you want reality to agree that you're going to make it unprofitable to invest in real estate. good luck with that.

?? It’s not always profitable to invest in real estate. When interest rates go up that’s not favorable for real estate for basic math reasons

Re: If the Economy Is So Strong, Why Are Consumer Stocks Tanking?

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you want what you're saying to be true because you want reality to agree that you're going to make it unprofitable to invest in real estate. good luck with that.

?? It’s not always profitable to invest in real estate. When interest rates go up that’s not favorable for real estate for basic math reasons

I keep re-reading my post and I can't see where I've used the word always there.

Can you point it out for me?

Re: If the Economy Is So Strong, Why Are Consumer Stocks Tanking?

#114
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This fundamentally misses the problem. Investors are only able to speculate because there is a shortage of housing. They are betting that in the future even more people will want that housing, and they are probably right. The only real solution is to crash the housing market by building more houses in places that people want them. Banning speculation won't solve the problem, and it might actually make the problem wor…

I would argue we need to put limitations on what entities can purchase residential property. There is no reason a corp needs to own a 2 bedroom house. It is manipulating a critical market and destabilizing everything. Push them out of the market. They should have have no skin in this game. You want to increase the supply. I want to tank the demand. Your method won't work because if regular people could afford to comp…

How can this correction take place?

Individual home owners and business interests have a vested interest in maintaining a very tight grip on the status quo with regard to zoning, which is the primary tool for driving housing reform.

They will continue to do everything in their power to prevent the construction of affordable housing, because it will destroy their current real estate investments.

The non-landed folks have zero leverage within the political system.

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