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Post by johnnyanmac »

idonotknowwhy wrote: post #52
paulmd wrote: post #25

It’s funny to look back on all the people who were doing the “see, the world didn’t fall apart just because apple had to allow sideloading” over the last month. Like the law didn’t even come into effect yet and google is already flexing their monopoly power / browser monoculture, but people think that just because the internet didn’t explosively destruct overnight that everything is gonna be just fine. See also, the…

We'll end up with a Firefox add on to bypass this. And failing that, a piratebay of YouTube videos

>a piratebay of YouTube videos

that'd be infeasible to do given the sheer volume of videos uploaded per day. even if we limited it to the most subscribed creators (10m+ subs) it'd be hard for pirates to keep up.

Not to mention seeding. If we had enough seeders to keep that sort of volume up, those p2p video services would be in a much better state.

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Post by madeofpalk »

neoneye2 wrote: post #107

If one were to make the ideal alternative to YouTube. What should the specs be like?

Host video, give money to people who upload videos.

These are both incredibly difficult, and why Youtube and Twitch have basically zero competition.

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Post by momirlan »

nickthegreek wrote: post #21
_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

I believe this is what you are looking for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37873749 But I also recommend purchasing YouTube Premium if you watch a decent amount. I find it to be a great value.

this comment never fails to appear on any Youtube blocker thread. Good for you that you pay Youtube , but stop rubbing it in our faces. each person has its own standards

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Post by w0ts0n »

silenced_trope wrote: post #58
woudsma wrote: post #20

Brave browser works quite well to block YouTube ads, I’ve used it for a couple of years now and it blocks ads from most sites pretty good.

Brave is what I'm using, but I must have gotten put into the A/B group since I now see the blocker. Changing the shield setting to "aggressive" hasn't beaten the block. But I've heard from others that they use Brave with "standard" settings and still don't see the block. That makes me think they aren't in the A/B group and NOT that Brave has found a way to adequately block it.

Team are heads down working on beating this.

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Post by Spivak »

mvdtnz wrote: post #94
jona-f wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We treat google how they treat us, as exploitive as possible.

You're just rationalising. You know it's not a defensible position.

Sure it is, you're not even involved in the transaction. Just because someone pays Google to show an ad doesn't mean you have to look at it. USPS is funded by ads going through the mail and I throw them straight in the trash without remorse. I bet you do too. Bet you don't feel guilt about going to the bathroom or fast-forwarding your DVR during commercials either. Ad space is sold on the possibility that someone will see it and you don't owe anyone valuable ad real-estate.

It's wild how many people unironically think "drink verification can" is in any way acceptable.

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Post by dotnet00 »

numpad0 wrote: post #95

What is the cost for Google to serve YouTube data to users, is it $0.01/hour/DAU, or is it median 2-3x Premium subscription per user? If it's latter, how will this ever work out? And, with inevitable encation spreading across Web, what is its long-term replacement? Is it App market dystopia, or some sort of Metaverse system, or could it be fragmented regional Webs? We have been seeing more Gitea repository in Chinese…

I think we're just heading for (hopefully) a return to fragmentation of content. YouTube's dominance was largely from them pouring Google Ad money into the platform such that content creators made decent money while users didn't have to suffer as many ads as other platforms.

But over the years creators have become less dependent on Google ad money, instead relying more on sponsorships, paid subscriptions ala Patreon and superchat style systems for live streams. Leaving the audience as the only leverage YouTube has.

Now on top of that Google is creating incentives for people to look for alternatives. If it's already reasonable for people to self host alternate frontends like Invidious, it's only a matter of time till a gradual shift and fragmentation starts to occur.

I think Google would've had a much easier time of forcing people to not use adblock if they hadn't spent the past decade burning good will with the way they treat content creators.

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Post by bboygravity »

paddim8 wrote: post #101
alwayslikethis wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point, I consider blocking ads to be a moral obligation. By giving in, you enable Youtube to abuse users further

Honestly, I don't think preventing ad blockers is abusive. Hosting videos for free is simply not sustainable. It does not work. We aren't entitled to getting everything on the internet for free.

Bittorrent would like to have a word.

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Post by gruez »

momirlan wrote: post #113
nickthegreek wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe this is what you are looking for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37873749 But I also recommend purchasing YouTube Premium if you watch a decent amount. I find it to be a great value.

this comment never fails to appear on any Youtube blocker thread. Good for you that you pay Youtube , but stop rubbing it in our faces. each person has its own standards

>each person has its own standards

What's your standard then? "It's my right to get whatever content/service I want for free and without ads, and I'll only pay if I feel like it"?

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Post by unshavedyak »

nickthegreek wrote: post #21
_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

I believe this is what you are looking for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37873749 But I also recommend purchasing YouTube Premium if you watch a decent amount. I find it to be a great value.

I'd buy it, but $14/m is way too much for no ads imo. Especially since this is a "free" service where the justification for me paying X$/m is because i have to offset the ads i would have otherwise watched.

You're (Youtube, not OP hah) telling me i provided $14/m in ad revenue? Of course not.

I'd insta-buy if i could just pay to skip any ads i actually would have watched. Give me a stat showing me how many ads i missed, and how much i owe. Justify the cost you're forcing on me.

Instead i'll just drop youtube and give money to some other service that doesn't feel like it's focused on gaming me.

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Post by eertami »

kaelinl wrote: post #8
dylan604 wrote: post #2

This is nice and all for now while YouTube allows dismissal of the warning. However, YouTube could go nuclear and just not allow any video to play at all if an ad blocker is detected. No DOM element removal will solve that. I'm not sure if that qualifies as scorched earth on YT's part, but it is an option.

This, in turn, will spawn user scripts which work around the detection. Any client-side solution will be an arms race between Google and user script/adblock devs. The only real way to prevent it is to withhold the video stream from the CDN until the client has streamed the full ad and/or bake it into the video stream. My impression is that Twitch does this for its live streams (although not VODs).

Well if they copy Twitch I suspect it will be circumvented very quickly. My adblock works just fine for Twitch, I do not see any adverts (unless I open using incognito).
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