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F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by computerfriend »

azalemeth wrote: post #102
nfriedly wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm running lineageOS, and I had to root the phone to make one banking app work (and Netflix and some games.) It actually passes SafetyNet out of the box, but there's a CTS profile check that some apps do in addition to SafetyNet, and I had to root the phone to make it provide a profile that those apps are happy with. And then I had to install a SafetyNet bypass, because fixing the CTS profile broke SafetyNet. It un-…

Would you mind saying what phone you have, and which script? I'm using a (by now rather old) OnePlus 5 and potentially in the market for an upgrade -- and easy rootability is more my key feature than bling or a 50 megapixel camera....

I'm also hanging on to my OP5 on Lineage. Always keeping an eye out for a replacement:

* runs Lineage,

* dual SIM,

* not enormous,

* headphone jack (nice to have).

There's nothing out there.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by fsflover »

throwaway914 wrote: post #92
Zambyte wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My phone forces me to reject "Play Protect" every single time I want to install an app. If I have to explicitly reject it more than once, it is obviously malware. Once is already arguable.

The only acceptable phone for me has been a Pixel phone, with GrapheneOS installed. I do wish the permission to install/uninstall were separated for something like this (I may be naive). I have everything installed to a work profile in Android (using the Shelter app). I can globally pause all work-profile apps. It's not the best, because when unpaused I'm not getting some notifications. I need to figure that out.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37880628

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by drowsspa »

Arch-TK wrote: post #103
drowsspa wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly device attestation has all but destroyed installing other OS. I couldn't use government or banking apps back in my old phone with LineageOS.

Device attestation works for banking applications on GrapheneOS. The only thing which doesn't work is google wallet because they explcitly expect a Google signed operating system.

That's probably what those apps use, then. Because all those tricks people mentioned never worked. Some explicitly failed saying that my ROM signature wasn't official.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by treyd »

pydry wrote: post #109
treyd wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience, most banking apps are horrible and not worth using over accessing the bank's browser version.

You don't get payment notifications when you use the browser version and you can't log in with a fingerprint scanner.

I don't need payment notifications (I check it regularly anyways) and I actively don't want to use biometrics for logins, so there's 0 loss for me.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by morrbo »

computerfriend wrote: post #111
azalemeth wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you mind saying what phone you have, and which script? I'm using a (by now rather old) OnePlus 5 and potentially in the market for an upgrade -- and easy rootability is more my key feature than bling or a 50 megapixel camera....

I'm also hanging on to my OP5 on Lineage. Always keeping an eye out for a replacement: * runs Lineage, * dual SIM, * not enormous, * headphone jack (nice to have). There's nothing out there.

Lineage on a Xiaomi redmi 10 pro, everything working perfectly (also dual SIM and SD card + headphone jack) get about 2 days battery life. Though it's quite old now so I've no idea if it is as good as a OP5 or not lol

Running https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix/releases on magisk to allow for things like NFC payments using Google wallet etc.

The way you have to hide from apps is a bit weird these days using magisk filters, but other than that the entire thing has been set and forget, and I've not had any issues

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by nfriedly »

azalemeth wrote: post #102
nfriedly wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm running lineageOS, and I had to root the phone to make one banking app work (and Netflix and some games.) It actually passes SafetyNet out of the box, but there's a CTS profile check that some apps do in addition to SafetyNet, and I had to root the phone to make it provide a profile that those apps are happy with. And then I had to install a SafetyNet bypass, because fixing the CTS profile broke SafetyNet. It un-…

Would you mind saying what phone you have, and which script? I'm using a (by now rather old) OnePlus 5 and potentially in the market for an upgrade -- and easy rootability is more my key feature than bling or a 50 megapixel camera....

Sure, I'm using a Moto g100 / Edge S (different branding depending on where in the world it was purchased, but it's the same hardware).

And this is the script I'm using: https://github.com/NicolasWebDev/reinstall-magisk-on-lineage...

Overall I'm really happy with my g100. The bootloader was easy to unlock, it has a headphones jack, a microSD slot, the battery lasts 2-3 days, and the performance, screen, and cameras are all good enough that I don't think about it.

The only things that I don't like are that the physical size is a larger than I would prefer, and it's not waterproof. Additionally, the single down-firing speaker is kind of lame when compared to my previous phones stereo front-firing speakers above and below the screen. I'd much rather have a bit of bezel if it meant I could have stereo front-firing speakers (and no camera hole punches!)

Oh, and I had to use a different phone to activate the SIM card to make it work on Verizon, because even though the phone is actually compatible with their network, they don't like it for some reason.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by nfriedly »

drowsspa wrote: post #104
nfriedly wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm running lineageOS, and I had to root the phone to make one banking app work (and Netflix and some games.) It actually passes SafetyNet out of the box, but there's a CTS profile check that some apps do in addition to SafetyNet, and I had to root the phone to make it provide a profile that those apps are happy with. And then I had to install a SafetyNet bypass, because fixing the CTS profile broke SafetyNet. It un-…

Yeah, I probably tried all those scripts people guarantee to work. Even with all profiles I tried to load somehow most of those apps knew I was rooted.

Oh, I didn't mention it in the original post, but I'm also using magisk hide, or zygote, or whatever they're calling it now.

Additionally, I've blocklisted certain apps so that they're not even allowed to request root access, because the banking app that forced me to root it in the first place would ask for root permission every time I launched it.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by lordofgibbons »

madmads wrote: post #105
drowsspa wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly device attestation has all but destroyed installing other OS. I couldn't use government or banking apps back in my old phone with LineageOS.

I use GrapheneOS daily and use banking, government, and other sensitive apps without problem. It's a common myth that you can't use those apps on GrapheneOS.

It's not a myth. I run GrapheneOS, and my bank app doesn't work, the Blind app doesn't work, and another common marketplace app (not amazon) has shadow banned me for using it on a device without hardware attestation. I only found out after reaching out to support and having a lengthy conversation with them.

It's idiotic that they require hardware attestation, but let's not fall into the trap of "it worked for me".

Even with these limitations, I'm okay with continuing to run GrapheneOS.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by TimeBearingDown »

fsflover wrote: post #112
throwaway914 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only acceptable phone for me has been a Pixel phone, with GrapheneOS installed. I do wish the permission to install/uninstall were separated for something like this (I may be naive). I have everything installed to a work profile in Android (using the Shelter app). I can globally pause all work-profile apps. It's not the best, because when unpaused I'm not getting some notifications. I need to figure that out.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37880628

It’s still the best of all worlds for many people, a great intersection of privacy tool availability and general app usability.

Re: F-Droid version of KDEConnect uninstalled by PlayProtect

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Post by heavyset_go »

HansHamster wrote: post #60
notpushkin wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LineageOS is supported on a bit more devices, and works with microG if you're willing to sacrifice Google Pay for better battery life and less privacy violations: https://lineage.microg.org/

LineageOS unfortunately dropped support for my Moto G4 relatively quickly after I installed it and it only was supported up to Android 7.1. I have been running an unofficial build of 8.1 ever since, but that is also horribly outdated by now.

You can build it yourself, although it's a pain in the ass.
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