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Tesla is launching their developer APIs

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Re: Tesla is launching their developer APIs

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Post by flkenosad »

porphyra wrote: post #32
flkenosad wrote: post #29

I'm calling for Tesla to open source all the code running onboard it's vehicles. Consumers have the right to understand how their machines work. Elon, you built an empire off the backs of open source developers. Give back.

Elon is not against open sourcing more code: https://techcrunch.com/2023/05/25/elon-musk-says-tesla-might... > Consumers have the right to understand how their machines work Windows and macOS aren't open source either and the vast majority of consumers don't care. It would be cool to be able to install an open source third party OS on your car though...

Windows and macOS aren't designed to operate heavy machinery and Linux is a viable alternative. Consumers don't care because they don't know. Consumers who do know, care.

Re: Tesla is launching their developer APIs

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Post by flkenosad »

bearjaws wrote: post #99
flkenosad wrote: post #29

I'm calling for Tesla to open source all the code running onboard it's vehicles. Consumers have the right to understand how their machines work. Elon, you built an empire off the backs of open source developers. Give back.

So brave.

Too much? LOL

Re: Tesla is launching their developer APIs

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Post by flkenosad »

jjallen wrote: post #47
flkenosad wrote: post #29

I'm calling for Tesla to open source all the code running onboard it's vehicles. Consumers have the right to understand how their machines work. Elon, you built an empire off the backs of open source developers. Give back.

What about all of the other cars' code that massively outnumber Teslas? Why not also call for theirs too?

Other car companies will follow suit just like they have with EVs. It's a logical move.

Re: Tesla is launching their developer APIs

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Post by andrewstuart2 »

modeless wrote: post #100
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #78

Free trial. Tesla APIs are temporarily free during this trial period. Oof. I wonder if this is one more reason Tesla vehicles have gotten cheaper and cheaper. Elon's probably betting on how much companies would pay for access to APIs and thus user data, and gain income to Tesla on top of simply profit margin on the vehicle itself. Much like he's doing at X. I wouldn't be that surprised to see Tesla data become a majo…

Are you trying to say that Tesla will sell bulk user data to advertisers or insurers or credit bureaus or something? That's not what's happening here at all. Users must explicitly authorize each app using this API individually.

That's not at all what I'm implying. I do know how oauth2 works, but charging for API access adds another revenue stream for Tesla that in many other business models is just considered part of the ecosystem attractiveness.

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Post by pfista »

tjungblut wrote: post #31
mvdtnz wrote: post #6

Does anyone actually get approved to use these APIs? Or is this another example of Tesla making big claims of openness without following through?

Just tried to sign up, got an immediate rejection.

Same- instant rejection. I wonder if they are trying to make test calls to the redirect uris / authorized origin?

Re: Tesla is launching their developer APIs

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Post by yreg »

amelius wrote: post #101
yreg wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the most important question since it has nothing to do with the fleet developer API. But yes, if you are fine with not using Superchargers (which would be insane) or the built-in internet then you don't need to deal with the vendor after purchasing the car.

The whole point is that these services could be provided by other service-providers. This is like a car of brand X that only accepts fuel of brand X (except now it is a service like internet or an API). (No pun intended with the X)

You can use your own internet connection, the car connects to WiFi.

As for the API, then yes, if you want to buy a fleet of Teslas and manage them with your custom software, you need to go through Tesla. That API is a service and not a product. The car is still a product though.

Re: Tesla is launching their developer APIs

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Post by testfrequency »

meragrin_ wrote: post #51
LambdaComplex wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tesla Engineering has their shit together The pictures I've seen of panel gaps on their cars say otherwise

I doubt engineering is intimately involved in the day to day production.

Should have known all the Tesla masters would dogpile on me defending their SOFTWARE ENGINEERING team.

I’m in no way talking about their manufacturing and assembly teams, strictly software.

Everyone is so hostile towards Tesla, settle down. There’s a ton of ex-meta, apple, uber swe’s at Tesla, they are not some unskilled and unprofessional engineers.

I really miss the old HN community, all anyone does here now is complain and disagree

Re: Tesla is launching their developer APIs

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Post by izacus »

yreg wrote: post #83
izacus wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would imply that Tesla would implement industry standard CarPlay/Android Auto support and we can't have that.

CarPlay is irelevant for this use case. You can say Hey Siri/OK Google into the air and just state your request. The phone can connect to the audio system via Bluetooth just like in any other car.

So, experience with CarPlay/Auto:

* Press speak button on the steering wheel, speak the query (via car microphone), hear answer via car stereo system with UI response rendered on cars' screen while having the ability to actually control apps on your phone which can then render on car screen.

* Yell at your phone over the car noise and only hear response via audio link and have no ability to control the infotainment system or apps on the phone.

Those are equivalent for you? :D

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