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Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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6.7 inch screen. My Pixel 5 is already big. This one is an inch bigger in my hand and in my pockets. Price increase. 875€ in Europe. The Pixel 5 was 630€. Do you really get 40% more phone?

Agreed, I moved away from Pixels because of size... I'm hoping for a Pixel Mini someday

I'd heard rumors about a Pixel Mini in 2023. Was holding out hope for a surprise drop at the Pixel event today, but with how leaky Google hardware development is, I should have known better.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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The Pixel has like 1% of smartphone market and Google has been making their down devices for 10 years now! I have two questions:

1. Why hasn’t Google pulled the plug and thrown in the white towel yet? People have voted with their wallets and chosen Samsung and Apple.

2. Why is the Pixel devices getting such a massive news coverage? Other smartphone ORM’s with similar market share doesn’t get the same treatment.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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I'm really glad to see both the partnership with iFixit and the 7 years of support. Because everything else seems mostly meh to me, and while I'm upgrading this year from a Pixel 6 Pro, the continued diminished returns make it seem likely that 2-3 years from now I won't have as much reason to.

My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

My wife and I have apparently been lucky enough to buy the 6 variant then- we've had nothing but good luck with ours, and we haven't been babying them either.

I miss some of the nice touches LG added on top of stock Android, but the hardware has met all expectations so far.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration. My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after…

Yeah. I didn't want to buy a Google phone but they're the only ones supported by GrapheneOS. From what I've read they've got pretty good reasons for supporting them too. Why can't Samsung step up and offer the same security features and firmware update schedules? I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 9 and it's been excellent for many years but it doesn't matter if it doesn't run the software I want.

With respect to grapheneOS on samsung, I don't think it's about security. It's about openness, there is already samsung knox (or whatever it is called, samsung dex?) so clearly they know how to make a secure enclave it's just that samsung wants to keep their stuff proprietary.

In general samsung and others (huawei, etc.) are trying to get a grip on android, and open-source seems to oppose that.

I don't know what motivates google to lean in so hard with open-source ( maybe trying to prevent fragmentation or avoid future antitrust or set a "clean" example standard for stock android with their pixel brand ), but we do currently enjoy its fruits.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Snoozer like the iPhone 15 release. No real innovation, just a new chip, improved cameras, and a bunch of waxing and waning about premium materials that I will never see again after I slap a case on it.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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The Pixel has like 1% of smartphone market and Google has been making their down devices for 10 years now! I have two questions: 1. Why hasn’t Google pulled the plug and thrown in the white towel yet? People have voted with their wallets and chosen Samsung and Apple. 2. Why is the Pixel devices getting such a massive news coverage? Other smartphone ORM’s with similar market share doesn’t get the same treatment.

1. it's not a vote, it's a market. 2. Pixel devices set the standard for every other android phones. the coverage is legit.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Is there an Apple’s Elop at Google now? I am asking this in all seriousness. How does this cost for this phone make any sense!

Or maybe Google finally learned it from Apple that all you have do is declared a phone flagship and bump its cost dearly - then enjoy sights of people in long queues.

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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And again no Face Unlock like we had in Pixel 4 :( COVID basically ended and they still won't bring that back, I was hoping that Apple push for that will make Android phones also with a nice and secure face unlocking (for us that have issues with fingerprint sensors not recognizing their fingerprints)

Features do include Face Unlock if you scroll down enough

Re: Pixel 8 Pro

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Too expensive for my tastes. Give me 380USD phone which lasts for next 5-8 years, feels premium, is repairable, camera is decent, replaceable battery, OS is just Vanilla Android with atleast 5 years(more years of Software updates would be welcome) of Software Updates and when you can't provide it, make it hackable enough to install Custom ROMs.

No company will ever make a 5-8 year phone at that price. That's $47-76 a year. People pay that amount or more for apps that help manage their fantasy football team... Comparitively that would be an insane bargain for a phone and it's absurd for that to be your requirement. I do wonder what the right price point would be for a subscription model. At the moment the average replacement time is every 2 years which would…

Why would they not make a budget phone? It's not like the BOM + assembly for a touchscreen, first(!) battery, motherboard, and plastic case cost that much. Check out some of the public reports from counterpointresearch.com: the profit margin on flagships is often double the BOM cost, the profit margin on budget phones is a little tighter but still not bad. Who cares what the revenue is per year? What matters is how much it costs to make the thing. Most vendors are just tweaking reference designs anyways.

The Moto G Play is just $170 list, currently going for ~$110. It has a rather pathetic 3 years support, but that's $4.72 per month at list, or ~$3.95 at current list rates - assuming you throw it away when the support contract ends. The Samsung A14 5g is $200, and gets 4 years' support, which is $4.15/mo, again, assuming list price and discarding when security updates are over.

I'm currently typing from my Moto G6, which came out in April 2018. I bought in July of that year for $100 (it was a BOGO with a buddy's $400 Moto One Zoom, they were literally giving them away as a backup to promote their more expensive phone because the BOM cost was so cheap). I plug it in on my desk at work because the battery sucks now, but that's no great hardship. By that math, I've enjoyed the use of a smartphone for $1.62 per month (would be $3.25 at list). Yes, it's only running Android 9 and not getting "security updates" anymore, but I have my phone app, messaging app, a camera, and Firefox, and that's about all I need.

I think it would be ridiculous to spend $30 or $40 A MONTH for a smartphone. It doesn't matter what some people pay for a fantasy football team app, that has nothing to do with buying hardware. Other people are buying 3000 lbs used cars for the same price others are paying for a flagship 200g slab of glass!

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