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I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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I appreciate this guy taking the time to test this stuff out, but... 2.5 minutes per application seems really reasonable and short? Even the Post Office application that took 10 minutes seems fine. I get that you might have to apply to a lot of different jobs, but at that rate in 2-3 hours of focused work, you could apply to nearly a hundred different jobs. The fact that it's that easy to apply belies the tone the ar…

> 2.5 minutes per application seems really reasonable and short?

That's what I thought as well. I suppose 2.5 minutes feels incredibly long if you're spending your day watching 10 second reels on TikTok and Instagram.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet you’re surprised that people lie all the time to women at bars too!

Haha.. wait have we met? :D It would be a fun experiment to have a few shots, update my resume and then read it the next day.

Haha, unlikely. I just know the feeling.

Another experiment - have a friend update your resume while you take those shots, and then see if you can really object to the results the next day. ;)

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

#113
post #45

I remember applying to RenTech and getting a rejection email in 3 hours and let me tell you it was quick. Most companies I have applied to would probably take a week or more than a week

Some years ago I remember applying to a job at a well known US bank. It got to a series of checklist questions, one of which asked if I had a degree, I checked no, and it kicked me out before I could even finish the application.

Honestly, I wish more applications were like that. Just let me know sooner rather than later what your filters are.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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post #45

I remember applying to RenTech and getting a rejection email in 3 hours and let me tell you it was quick. Most companies I have applied to would probably take a week or more than a week

Disney’s rejection for a front end position came a full year after I applied

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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post #30

Apply to Procter & Gamble, and as part of the application itself enjoy being put through 1-2 hours of ambiguous personality/morality testing and Mensa-style math, memorization, and logic puzzles! With adaptive difficulty! It's the most surreal and absurd experience. There are actually prep courses you can pay for just to improve your odds on the P&G testing process just to get someone to actually see your resume. Be…

Many years ago, I had to complete a long personality inventory AND about 45 minutes of "what would you do"-type scenario simulations to apply for a job at...Kmart! Then the manager no-showed when I came in for the interview.

Retail applications have gotten lazy recently. I put one in, and they wanted a recorded interview. No one on the other side, I was expected to just awkwardly record myself answering some questions and send it in.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Oh goodness, someone else who shares my irrational antipathy for Workday! Workday is such junk from a user facing perspective. It’s a huge pain to index content from. I have to omit a bunch of big semiconductor companies from my job site because it’s fucking impossible to get job data out of Workday. If you work in talent at either NXP or Qualcomm, please God read this essay. You are actively harming your own recruit…

Also, anyone know a way to automate undoing the all-capsing Workday does with resume data? Sometimes the data makes it to the correct field but it might as well not since I need to retype the whole thing anyway.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate on the problems with Workday? I hear lots of antipathy about it, but the only problem I've personally noticed is (IIRC) it consistently mis-parses my PDF resume.

One of the biggest issues I've had, and I don't know how workday looks from their end, when it comes to entering in education and specifically degree. My degree says "Software Engineering," which I never see given in a list. So I usually just pick whatever is closest like "Computer Science," and I always wonder if there is a system that does some correlation between what it put in the box and on the resume.

I applied to company using workday recently. The job was a referral and the JD made it explicitly clear I didn’t need a degree. Yet it was a required field.

And of course, it wasn’t a free form text field that would allow me to just enter N/A or my high school. It was a drop-down/search box that had a predefined list of colleges and universities. I ended up just entering some college I attended for two months before dropping out.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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post #45

I remember applying to RenTech and getting a rejection email in 3 hours and let me tell you it was quick. Most companies I have applied to would probably take a week or more than a week

Disney’s rejection for a front end position came a full year after I applied

that's insane

I remember applying for a position getting a phone call and then getting rejected afterwards but the funny thing was I got another email from the same company asking about my availability for the interview and I was like Woahh, are you sure you sent the email to the right person because I remember you already rejected me

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, big corpos for years have been automating the hiring process to the detriment of their own results. Is it really that surprising applicants are ready to do the same? Now suddenly automation is bad? Hiring managers being butt-hurt that their automated factory farm application process is being inundated with spam generated by other automation is so hilarious to me, this just made my day. You get what you fuckin…

It isn't the use of automation that is the problem. It's that in the automated applications we're receiving, there is very obviously fraudulent information in there. The applicants are LYING about their experience, in order to match the job specification. ChatGPT just consumes each of the job requirements, and then makes a story about how the applicant has had significant experience in all of those areas. I would pre…

> It isn't the use of automation that is the problem. It's that in the automated applications we're receiving, there is very obviously fraudulent information in there. The applicants are LYING about their experience, in order to match the job specification.

Who cares? The specifications half the time include experience that's impossible to achieve because the people writing them either are also in turn using automated software and/or because they have no idea what they're hiring for.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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I guess this is interesting research, but for me not personally useful. I've had a lot of jobs in my long career, and I have spent a considerable amount of time researching and applying for the few ones I am interested in. I have a pretty good hit rate. Do people really apply for hundreds of jobs?

> Do people really apply for hundreds of jobs?

I’ve done it twice. The first time was when I was 18 or 19 trying to get my first job in the industry. I put in a ton of applications, and while it felt tedious, it only took around three months at the end of the day.

The second time was this time. I’ve probably put at least 100 applications in over the past year, and it’s been very hit or miss on whether I get interviews. I don’t bother researching and applying for the few jobs in interested in, because I’m usually not qualified for them. Most of my recent job applications have been exclusively ones that looks like they’re relevant compared to my resume, and some that are different from the work I’ve done in the past, but utilize tangential skills.

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