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How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Is everyone here this credulous? The website even claims it increases your IQ, which is extremely dubious, to say the least. Rubbing your eyes doesnt make you not aphantasic, any more than looking at a bright lightbulb for a few seconds or unblinkingly staring at a single image on a bright tv for a few minutes (which is actually more effective if you want to clearly see colorful and bright shapes with closed eyes --…

I think the important part of the technique is talking about what you see, not the actual act of seeing things. He talks about creating brain pathways between the visual and linguistic parts of your brain.

It’s those new pathways that are the key.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

#112

Could someone summarize the technique? This was a video tl;dr for me (though I’ll watch it if the summary sounds interesting).

It's stuff like looking at something for a while and then closing your eyes and trying to see it, etc.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I am like you in that I cannot actually see anything visual in my minds eye but I can still 'visualise' it. For example, I can rotate a die in my minds eye without actually seeing it. It's hard to explain. It was a revelation when I found out that most people can actually see things visually in their minds eye. A friend of mine can actually place imagined objects into their field of view, like AR.

I wouldn’t be so sure that what they’re describing isn’t really the same as your “visualization”. I can’t truly see anything in my mind’s eye, same as you and others in this thread, but I can abstractly visualize it, again same as you describe for rotating a die, and I can place that abstract visualization in the 3D space I see before my (open) eyes. I think it’s more likely that others describe this abstract visuali…

Seems to me a way of testing the visualization vs hallucination (if I can distinguish it like that) gradient would be the ability to trace visualized/'projected' objects on paper, particularly for subjects without prior background in illustration/draftsmanship (less skill to lean on) and for images which require replication of details they're not familiar with (things like dice are relatively geometrically primitive shapes, while say a person's face while it can be built up from primitives is inherently complex). Granted part of this would be testing photographic recall.

Like you describe I can visualize a lot of things, with fidelity, but it's still in my mind's eye (that is, a 'sense' rather than a physically represented image that's as apparent as other IRL objects). I can also hone in on details with my eyes open while doing other things. However I can't trace such things merely from this sense since they're not actually there for me. I can however leverage my draftsmanship skills to be able to focus on the mental visualization/sense and progressively draw from memory and for various familiar things visualize them on the paper but not as an optical manifestation.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

#114

So, wait, are people normally actually seeing images, with their eyes, when they imagine what something looks like? Like, the brown-blackness of the back of your eyelids gets replaced with something you actually see, like it's projected there? I can imagine what something looks like, and I guess I sort of 'see' it, but closing my eyes doesn't make it any more real. It doesn't seem to involve the eyes or any part of t…

If I really try I can put myself in a place, I can imagine for instance going to the grocery store with my kids: I’m in the parking lot holding their hands. I feel the sun shining too bright in my eyes when I look to the left, I feel a slight breeze on my arms and face, then the automatic doors open, and my boy is fussing so I pick him up, and I can feel his arms around me, then I put him in the cart, and he’s heavy. I hear the beeping of cash registers and the murmur of people talking. One wheel is bad on the shopping cart and it squeaks and pulls to the left. The handle of the cart is smooth plastic, it’s translucent but with a red stripe painted on it. I reach for the cucumbers and I can see that they’re waxy but also the end of the first one I see is wrinkly, meaning that it’s starting to shrivel. You get the idea. I see it all in detail and I can feel certain sensations and hear sound too. Yeah visualizing with that much detail takes effort but I can do more than just visualize an apple.

It’s not exactly the same as watching a movie. But I think if I was doing this and you moved something in front of me, I wouldn’t see it. It would be an interesting scientific experiment. Certainly people have told me that when I was staring into space that they waved to me and I didn’t respond.

One way this is really useful is if I’m packing for, say, a camping trip. I can put myself in the campsite, and I first want to gather firewood, but it’s too thick to break, so I pick up a saw. -ok write that down, a saw. At night we climb into the tent and when we get inside it’s very dark -write down flashlight- and then after unrolling my sleeping back I notice that it’s uncomfortable without a pillow -write down pillow. That kind of thing.

I can do this with music too. Sometimes that’s how I write songs. I’ll work the parts, hearing them all together while I’m taking a shower, then later ill go to the music room and play the whole song one instrument at a time.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

#115

So, wait, are people normally actually seeing images, with their eyes, when they imagine what something looks like? Like, the brown-blackness of the back of your eyelids gets replaced with something you actually see, like it's projected there? I can imagine what something looks like, and I guess I sort of 'see' it, but closing my eyes doesn't make it any more real. It doesn't seem to involve the eyes or any part of t…

I have seen lines of code projected vividly like this. Several years ago a Facebook recruiter invited me to interview with them. It mostly went well, except I bombed the leetcode algorithm quiz. The next day, as I expected, they sent me a polite note thanking me for interviewing but they would be moving on with other candidates. The morning after that, I woke up and before I opened my eyes I saw the complete solution…

This is just common solving problems while you sleep. Everyone does this. If you're having trouble with something - try a nap.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

#116

Is everyone here this credulous? The website even claims it increases your IQ, which is extremely dubious, to say the least. Rubbing your eyes doesnt make you not aphantasic, any more than looking at a bright lightbulb for a few seconds or unblinkingly staring at a single image on a bright tv for a few minutes (which is actually more effective if you want to clearly see colorful and bright shapes with closed eyes --…

Yeah it sounds very scam-like. But it does make me think: IQ tests are basically all about rotating coloured things in your mind. I wonder if being able to visualize them in your head, instead of having to manipulate them with words and algebra like I do, does influence the results.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen lines of code projected vividly like this. Several years ago a Facebook recruiter invited me to interview with them. It mostly went well, except I bombed the leetcode algorithm quiz. The next day, as I expected, they sent me a polite note thanking me for interviewing but they would be moving on with other candidates. The morning after that, I woke up and before I opened my eyes I saw the complete solution…

This is just common solving problems while you sleep. Everyone does this. If you're having trouble with something - try a nap.

I think you missed the point.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #94

This one is curious; >Q. If I use a voice recorder, do I have to listen back to what I’ve said? No. I’m not going to pretend that I understand why but it seems that your mind just needs to know what the words are being recorded. You can, of course, listen to the recordings if you want to. Personally, I didn’t bother.

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Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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The thing I've never understood about aphantasia is the emphasis on closing your eyes. Does it really matter? I can visualize an apple (to borrow the example from the frequently shared meme) whether my eyes are open or closed. It's not like my eyelids are some necessary visual backdrop for visualization.

At this point I'm fairly certain aphantasia doesn't really exist (or is extremely rare), but what exists is a disconnect between what people understand the word "visualising" to mean

I cannot project an image of an apple into my brain, but I can be aware of what an apple looks like and have that awareness move and rotate the apple. I would never call it visualising though

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #75

The article kind of comes off as spammy/scammy and I fully expected to reach a point where the author wanted to sell me a course for $99 on how to achieve whatever it was he was hawking. I have a propensity for staring at points in space and daydreaming/visualizing to the point where it thoroughly annoys my wife. Right now I am rotating a small grey elephant wearing blue boots and a red blanket with gold edging on th…

> It's also free which no doubt irks a number of CEOs and founders who have yet to figure out how to monetize it. Just wait for Neuralink brain ads, it'l come

I prefer to self host vs running my brain in the cloud. After all, there is no cloud, it's just someone else's brain.

Eventually, someone on HN, in a few decades, will admonish with the same fervour at the proposal of self-hosting their dreams as they do when someone proposes running their own email server.

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