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iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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First of all, the phone does tell you which process is responsible for burning energy. It’s not necessarily the best but it’s there. If the phone is getting too hot to hold though, it’s not a software bug of something pinning the CPU. The OS should be thermal throttling well before that happens, and I’ve seen that happen on hot days (the phone goes from thermal throttling the CPU to a perma “this phone is too hot” bl…

Yes I agree. A phone should never be allowed to get unpleasant to touch. Maybe apple went to generous with their temp limit, or their sensor has too much play between devices. But also some programs shouldn't be allowed to go full blast when they are stuck in a self inflicted loop while waiting for something (instead of doing actual compute). And that is what I meant with activity monitor. If such behavior from popul…

The OS does limit the resources of background tasks.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Why is weight even a concern? Thinness I get because that makes a real difference in your pocket, but what's the point of reducing the weight a tiny bit?

I upgraded from an iPhone 13 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max and even the small weight loss feels pretty significant. It’s a phone that is a lot nicer to hold.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #89

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If you've got the cash buy the Merc, etc etc Iphone. Otherwise, spend $300 on a really solid android phone and then flex on being money smart.

Review the EOL spans between apple and android though. Apple is still releasing security updates for the 5S, a 10 year old handset. Android devices average 3-4 years before complete end of support. Maybe HN folks will go for alternate firmware, but I'm talking about manufacturer firmware for apples to apples comparison. That $300 increases to $600+ vs holding on to a ~$500 apple handset when looking at a 5+ years tim…

5 years on an iphone is a long time. There'll be a few screen replacements in that story.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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This is some kind of bug with throttling not being applied i guess, but I'd very much like Apple to test their devices outside a constant temperature dust free office. Right now it shuts down when it's too cold (and i mean like 0 C from personal experience, in my stopped car in winter), shuts down when it's too hot (car in summer). Keyboards fail if you dare to use them outdoors and are irreplaceable. Can they afford…

> Can they afford to use their devices in the real world a bit before launching?

What makes you think they don't?

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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> Warm, rather unpleasantly (but not concerningly) - sure, but hot - never. If only we had a standardized scale to measure and express warm vs. cold…

You’re not happy with our “warm - rather unpleasantly warm - hot” scale?

... but not concerningly!

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #96

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Well, it's not Thermal Conductivity then. I just looked it up. Stainless Steel 15 W/m-K Titanium 17 W/m-K Aluminum 210 W/m-K Effectively, Stainless Steel & Titanium have the same thermal conductivity. https://www.hardrok.com.au/thermal-activity-in-stainless-ste... .

The issue here is users complaining that the phones get too hot to handle, which immediately eliminated conductivity. A thermal conductivity problem would've looked like the phone overheating without the outside getting too hot to handle. (picture the circuit board inside a thermos)

that's not necessarily true. Heat has to go somewhere eventually. It could be that the CPU is much hotter than the temperatures felt on the frame. but yea, if the cpu is 45 C and the frame is 40 C, you'd be right.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #80

This is some kind of bug with throttling not being applied i guess, but I'd very much like Apple to test their devices outside a constant temperature dust free office. Right now it shuts down when it's too cold (and i mean like 0 C from personal experience, in my stopped car in winter), shuts down when it's too hot (car in summer). Keyboards fail if you dare to use them outdoors and are irreplaceable. Can they afford…

> Can they afford to use their devices in the real world a bit before launching? What makes you think they don't?

The lack of usability outside California temperature ranges, for one?

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #93

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

> Not much of anything has changed in the last 6. Not really. It's still basically the iPhone X with a couple of screen size options. Yeah the chips are faster on paper, and the photos have gone from really good to better, but it's a really incremental product these days These kind of comments seem to be low effort because they don't really show an insight into what has changed. Of course, if you compare an iPhone fr…

> The improvements in camera, screen brightness, colors and many others strongly disagree with such claims.

I've owned an X, a 12, a 13 (after the 12 got water damage), and have ordered the 15 (but not received it yet).

With the caveat of not having used the 14 or 15 (but just looking at the specs on paper), I would have to agree with the comment you're responding to that all the changes since the X have essentially been incremental. Not only that, completely and consistently annoying UI bugs such as the one where you accidentally tap a notification when you intended to tap a UI element at the top of the screen (which I blogged about way back when: https://medium.com/p/31773fe6bbd5) have not been fixed despite the fact that my solution (adding a small input "debounce" or timeout whenever the UI changes, where inputs are ignored) would likely solve this problem. (This problem has likely annoyed YOU, even if you haven't heard about it until now! More generally, it's also a problem with websites that let you accidentally click or fat-finger on elements while they're still re-rendering and shuffling around, which my post also includes.)

Of course, that's a software problem... The hardware is largely exactly the same. There's still no way to TouchID through the screen (like Android has had for years... I absolutely cannot stand FaceID and just use an alphanumeric code to unlock with a long unlock time now), there's still no models with a foldable screen (again, like Android has had for years), and we are only JUST getting USB-C (whoop de frickin' doo... again, not an Android fan but Android has had this for years too) and ONLY (more or less) because the EU twisted Apple's arm.

(Aside: I still can't directly edit the custom spelling dictionary iOS maintains internally. Mine has a ton of garbage in it, but is just useful enough that I don't want to wipe it completely, which is the only option.)

And now with iPhones dominating the teen market with like an 88% marketshare (which is a fairly good indicator that Apple will be completely entrenched for years from now), they just don't have any incentive to take innovation risks anymore.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

Ofcourse you are right. Its a veblen good. Read up Conspicuos Consumption.

The plebs cant buy super yatches or formula 1 teams to signal Status (ie check me out, I have resourced to squander, so who do you want to hang out? with me or someone who doesnt have resources to squander?)

So they buy shit like iphones. Its within the credit card limits of the plebs with status cravings.

Veblen would say status signalling is a massive misallocation of the econimies resources, and a good technologist is one reduces economic waste. I mean get people as crazy about poor infra outside their homes or in their hospitals and schools instead this type of stuff.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #114

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> Can they afford to use their devices in the real world a bit before launching? What makes you think they don't?

The lack of usability outside California temperature ranges, for one?

Apple supports the published specs of an operating temp between 32° to 95° F (0° to 35° C). Your comment implying they don't test outside dust free "California temperatures" is simply not true.
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