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UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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The bill makes sites prove they are committed to removing content: * promoting or facilitating suicide * promoting self-harm Serious question - how will this affect discussions around euthanasia? Can people just not discuss that online in the UK anymore?

Healthcare is a human right - MAID

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

#112

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What do you mean again? Very few people outside a small clique want or care about self-hosting anything.

Most ISP won't even let you do it anyway. I know the players in Canada don't and I think Australia too. So even if you had the inclination to do it, not going to happen in our current world.

I'm not sure you need ISP approval to self host?

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

#113
post #102

"Good evening, London. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of everyday routine, the security of the familiar, the tranquillity of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, whereby those important events of the past, usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, are celebrated wit…

Yeah bollocks. Guy Fawkes was attempting to reinstate a monarchy that the people roundly, and almost universally, despised. The Jacobins were, exclusively, Catholic landed gentry. Lopping off Chuckie's head set the stage for Britain's golden age, which goes to show: Tories have always been stupid as well as evil.

The Tories didn’t exist until probably 50 years after Guy Fawkes was killed and when they did come to be they were quite anti-Catholic.

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Why is the UK government in collapse? The same reasons as the US?

I would say, generally, the people in power used to have a certain level of competence, even if they were despicable. They also had to act, outwardly at least, like they weren't deliberately shafting the common man. Brexit changed all that. All that mattered was whether you believed in One True Brexit. Lots of heretics were hounded out. Behaviour didn't matter. You could say terrible things, as long as you were a BeL…

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Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

#115
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Eh? That is definitely nor what's going on with this bill.

Indeed. This is not corporate regulation, it's social regulation. Social authoritarianism is the driving force in English politics, and it's a big vote-winner in the tabloid- and telegraph-reading constituency. It's also the message that's easiest to flog on social media, since all you have to do is trigger outrage and critical thinking goes out of the window. Liberality is probably more popular, but it's erased by o…

Thank you for wording that so well, that’s exactly how I feel about the situation.

Unfortunately we’re having our own problems here in Scotland (i.e. poverty, economy, low births, alcohol/drugs deaths). But I do now feel like we should drop our anchor that is England. The population is too polite to revolt and voluntarily mind controlled by a rotten press.

It’s a shame, being from the EU, I always looked up to Britain. Now while living here, I’m just astonished that people just accept or don’t care that Britain is going backwards. Westminster is a clown show.

We’re speed running towards a bleak future.

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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post #97

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Indeed. This is not corporate regulation, it's social regulation. Social authoritarianism is the driving force in English politics, and it's a big vote-winner in the tabloid- and telegraph-reading constituency. It's also the message that's easiest to flog on social media, since all you have to do is trigger outrage and critical thinking goes out of the window. Liberality is probably more popular, but it's erased by o…

Thank you for wording that so well, that’s exactly how I feel about the situation. Unfortunately we’re having our own problems here in Scotland (i.e. poverty, economy, low births, alcohol/drugs deaths). But I do now feel like we should drop our anchor that is England. The population is too polite to revolt and voluntarily mind controlled by a rotten press. It’s a shame, being from the EU, I always looked up to Britai…

>But I do now feel like we should drop our anchor that is England.

Truly I am tickled by the image of a garbage-barge lugging around a giant golden anchor only to cut it loose during a great storm.

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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Our country is crumbling and people are starting to realise it’s the Tory’s fault. 13 years of Tory rule, cutting services to the bone and making themselves rich at our expense is seriously taking its toll. Councils are going bankrupt, schools are falling apart, public transport is in managed decline in a lot of areas, various sectors regularly going on strike, people can’t afford their bills, mortgages sky-rocketed,…

Labour has largely supported this -- one of the originators is Lorna Woods (University of Essex) who was an advisor to Blair.

People also forget it was Labour who introduced the "Tell us your password or go to prison" law.

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#118
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It's such a transparent lie. Most families in the UK with three children are in poverty. The UK punishes the child for existing, by denying it social security.

Just factually incorrect.

which part?

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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Most ISP won't even let you do it anyway. I know the players in Canada don't and I think Australia too. So even if you had the inclination to do it, not going to happen in our current world.

I'm not sure you need ISP approval to self host?

You may be forced to pay a lot more for a static IP address. Running servers on a residential dynamic IP address can go against the ToS/AUP for some ISPs

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

#120

I hope other countries don't copy the UK. With the Internet we have choice of jurisdiction and can happily avoid any cryptography projects operating out of the UK. I don't care if WhatsApp will become wiretapped in the UK. My beloved Matrix operates out of there, that's what concerns me. And I have to use WhatsApp because of its network effect (all my friends and family are on it). I have tried recruiting them on to…

> And I'm not saying Signal doesn't have its issues (meatspace identity tied to your number etc) but it's far superior to WhatsApp which collects too much metadata like, it knows your contacts, when you talk to them, IP and other metadata.

Signal also collects your contacts and it permanently stores that data in the cloud along with your name, photo, and phone number. If didn't know they were doing that, that alone should tell you how much you can trust Signal.

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