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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by KRAKRISMOTT »

rsynnott wrote: post #91
ta988 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't know the Nexus 7 had issues I had mine for almost 10y and just gave it away to someone it is still working and the battery too (albeit not really long anymore).

For some users the storage became _extremely_ slow over time. Not sure did anyone ever really figure out what was going on.

That's just normal flash memory degradation when you are using low quality chips. It's very common, especially among low end Samsungs. It's not something that can be fixed on the software side.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by 71a54xd »

drewg123 wrote: post #64

Sounds like not much has changed since 2015. A good friend ordered a new Model S in 2015. It arrived with a "squeak" that turned out to be due to missing welds in structural components of the chassis. They wanted him to sign an NDA to get a replacement vehicle (which he refused to do, both on principle, and because he'd talked to friends about it already). So he was forced to keep his vehicle, which was then repaired…

Your friend was a fool to not take the new vehicle (removing his financial burden) and then just do whatever he wanted with the info...

Granted, I'd lease a Hyundai before ever considering buying a Tesla. It's too bad bc I like the tech, but lack of ownership, software telemetry and shoddy service is a deal breaker.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by jsbisviewtiful »

gwbas1c wrote: post #47

This is a slam-dunk for the typical American lemon law. The owner of the car should go out and find a lemon law lawyer. When I had to work with one I didn't have to pay a thing. (I had a Subaru where the GPS / Stereo would reboot while I drove and loose its settings. After a bunch of replacements, the car still had the problem. I had to catch it on video, though. Subaru ended up declaring the car a lemon after trying…

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by HumblyTossed »

maffydub wrote: post #72
kramerger wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Do this only orally" is always to hide evidence from a future court discovery. I don't think Tesla would do this unless management consider it very serious.

In previous employment (as a software engineer), I've been told to do this too - mainly around inventions we were trying to patent. The reason is slightly less nefarious than you might think - for example, someone might casually say that some aspect of their patent is "obvious" but they're saying that as an expert in their field who may have spent months or years thinking about the problem and alternative solutions.…

I don't think these two scenarios are the same.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by chronicsunshine »

specialist wrote: post #104

There's a learning curve parable about the fastest way to learn how to make quality clay pots. Team A focuses on making 1 perfect pot. Specifications, research, process, testing, verification, etc. They get pretty close with their initial pots, but they struggle to scale up. Team B just starts making pots. As fast they can. Make incremental tiny improvements. Most pots are total losses. But they do manage to start ma…

Being that your life depends on your car not failing catastrophically while using it, I think your analogy would make more sense if you replaced clay pots with pacemakers.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by HumblyTossed »

viknesh wrote: post #6

If this vehicle were truly unsafe to drive (according to US safety standards), what legal recourse would an individual consumer have to have this fixed? Unless the user gets in an accident, is there a way to actually prove the frame is structurally defective?

> what legal recourse would an individual consumer have to have this fixed?

A lawsuit. That is what the legal system is for. But for some reason people seem to look down on this which I find baffling.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by formerly_proven »

checkyoursudo wrote: post #102
candiddevmike wrote: post #90

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I can't help but think secret recording laws are there to protect the elite more than the common person...

I think it still depends on local circumstances. For example, in Germany, a lot of the privacy culture (and therefore, laws) came about because of how the secret police terrorised the common people, for example, using secret recordings and worse (e.g., secret evidence). But in other places, sure, I would agree with you.

201 StGB is nowadays mostly used to prosecute people recording police actions. How... ironic.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by becurious »

lnsru wrote: post #35
kevingadd wrote: post #2

Light being able to shine straight through part of your car that's meant to be solid is scary. Does anyone know how common it is for cast metal of this sort to have damage like this? I am kind of surprised their manufacturing would have this issue

Normally cast metal parts shouldn’t have issues detectable with optical inspection system. I worked for a company doing welding inspection systems. It is absolutely crazy when such part ends in the final product. This company clearly overstretched cutting corners on this.

Would a part like this get x-ray inspected? I had a summer job working at a machine shop and structural castings would often get sent for x-ray inspection.

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Post by HPMOR »

nimajneb wrote: post #93
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #86

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Who's to stop the victim from recording evidence, accepting the replacement car, and submitting said evidence anonymously to the media and / or consumer protection and / or the car safety institutions? Are NDAs like that actually enforceable?

My bet is that becomes a scenerio where the party with the most money for lawyers wins. If it was me, I would have almost no money for lawyers.

Having recently dealt with this very situation. Lawyers are honestly not __that__ expensive for these disputes and NDA’s are largely unenforceable.
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