Live data from Hacker News

Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

ericdraken.com

111–120 of 659 posts

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#111
post #28

This reminds me of a now-dockerized Privaxy, which is a UBlock-origin blocklist compatible MITM proxy. It’s crazy to see how many ads and tracking scripts are on smart products, especially my TV where so far in my testing it’s over 40% unnecessary traffic. Its been pretty fun to try and strip out ads on my smart-tv apps. https://github.com/deetungsten/webui-privaxy is the dockerized fork of https://github.com/Barre/p…

How do you get your TV to trust the self signed cert?

It would not surprise me if most TVs don't check. I remember LG or Samsung using unencrypted FTP to upload viewing data a few years back, so unverified TLS would be an improvement >_<

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#112

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

Does anyone recall when cable TV first came out - "Pay for cable, see no ads!!!" That didn't last long...

You can go to the cinema, buy a ticket, buy a popcorn, and then watch ads there.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#113

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

> So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the only option (I think ad supported content is an inherently socially corrosive model) Still doesn't protect you from in-video sponsorships (skullshare, OstVPN, etc.), product placements, etc. Some creators especially do these because it protects them from platform demonetization risk. Same shit with paying for cabletv & movie theatre tickets. If anythin…

It doesn’t, but Nebula does. Creators don’t put sponsorships in their Nebula videos. And they had a lifetime subscription recently so personally I jumped on it and don’t have to deal with Yet Another Subscription…

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#114
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes

So they didn't remove it did they? You just refuse to pay for that service and spread bs to make you feel better?

They removed it from in front of the paywall to behind the paywall. The non-paid version used to do it. It was a memorably jarring experience working out WTF happened when background-play was rugged.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#115

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

There are so many reasons to block ads. Aesthetics alone. Protecting your valuable time. Consenting to watching an ad is not the same as consenting to your entire life being tracked and monitored. But the most important issue is that as long as malware can spread through ads ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvertising ), everyone should be blocking all ads.

Yeah it's gotten so bad that the FBI recommends an ad-blocker as a means to protect yourself from malicious sites.

https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221?=8324278624

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#116
post #44

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

The issue with paying for youtube premium is that you are still left with tons of ads. Until YouTube themselves doesn't tackle this issue as it should I refuse to pay to see sligtly less ads.

I pay for YouTube premium and have never seen an ad. Not sure what's happening with you.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#117
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>_exactly_ like malware But it's googlevideo.com. I know this is Google/YouTube's domain so the rest doesn't matter.

Which is besides the point and a minor nitpick at best. The fact of the matter is these techniques are well established black hat ways of preventing the user from discovering what you're doing on their device.

Discovering what exactly? To bad they don't use a subdomain called "adplayback" I guess, but the query parameters are obviously only useful for YouTube internal, not the users.

And I won't even call them "obfuscated" -- it's just a batch of switches and plain IP and ID hash.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#118
post #80
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my household growing up the ads were almost always muted as soon as the roll started. I always found it bizarre that other people did not do the same

They train you to do this when they volume boost the ads to blow your eardrums out.

Over here volume boosting is illegal, so instead they DSP ad audio to maximise envelope across all frequency bands.

Since ad sections are your typical break from a program to get to the fridge or toilet or whatever, the DSP transform makes sure you still hear the ads and pick up dialog even when far away from the TV.

Downmixing audio so that you can both hear dialogue and not lose eardrums to music and 'splosions seems to be an intractable decades old problem for the movie industry but it sure as hell been solved a dozen times over by the ad biz.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#120
post #18

>I propose heuristically scanning for query and path parameters of ad URLs with high entropy and using those as keys (fingerprints). > https://xn--rr6sn-uxa0n-t8gz-vg6i.googlevideo.com/initplayba... &orc=1&oeis=1&c=IOS&oss=1&oda=1&oad=5500&ovd=5500&oaad=11000&oavd=11000 &ocs=700&oputc=1&oses=1&ofpcc=1&osbr=1&osnz=1&msp=1&odeak=1&odepv=1 &osfc=1&id=58cc678216d6aaca&ip=121.35.98.26&initcwndbps=2125000 &mt=1640373902 Th…

>_exactly_ like malware But it's googlevideo.com. I know this is Google/YouTube's domain so the rest doesn't matter.

But it's googlevideo.com, how could it be a video of some shyster pimping get-rich-quick investment schemes that are convincing enough to appear totally legit to anyone below the half-way point of the bell curve?

But it's a google ad, how could it link to a scam that looks exactly like my bank's website?

Post reply on HN