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I'm no assassin but wonder how someone could fail to kill someone with poison. Aren't there a million deadly choices out there that would do the job reliably? Is the FSB security apparatus this incompetent?
In the past they used radioactive poisoning which is pretty easy to trace back and caused collateral damage. That's problematic. Poison is very dependent on dosage and delivery without compromising the agent might be tricky.
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I remember a few years back Iran send assassins to kill Iranian dissidents in Germany, Austria, and Belgium. The assassins were caught and politely returned to Iran on a private plane. No punishment for planned/attempted murder. The West is hopelessly naive about sophisticated and brutal adversaries like Russia and Iran.
It is more general than the west, it is that Good people are naive. They don't understand how many people are willing to lie and kill to get even petty gains from it. The USA is struggling with this asymmetry internally right now too. We are slowly and politely trying to prosecute people who attempted to overturn an election while they incite civil unrest and pass laws protecting themselves from prosecution
This is an interesting statement to me, because the right uses very similar language in the opposite direction. To paraphrase: "we're playing by the rules while the left is using the federal government to silence political adversaries."
From where I sit, those statements don't seem entirely accurate, but they also are not mutually exclusive.
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It’s not naïvety, it’s that that west would appreciate the same treatment when they send spies and assassins, which they do.
Again it is extreme naïveté, those assassins when caught are summarily executed. Iran will pick people off the street, accuse them of working for Israel and kill them, just to send a message to their own people. They’re not politely returning western assassins.
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You're talking about 140 million people here
No, he's talking about country/government, not people. I was born in Moscow and spent most of my life there, and I completely agree that people who live there would be much better of without the current government and most likely without the country in it's current form too.
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No, he's talking about country/government, not people. I was born in Moscow and spent most of my life there, and I completely agree that people who live there would be much better of without the current government and most likely without the country in it's current form too.
The country and government are people. Without people it's nothing. Remove the government overnight and the people aren't going to replace it with western leadership.
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It’s not naïvety, it’s that that west would appreciate the same treatment when they send spies and assassins, which they do.
Again it is extreme naïveté, those assassins when caught are summarily executed. Iran will pick people off the street, accuse them of working for Israel and kill them, just to send a message to their own people. They’re not politely returning western assassins.
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I remember a few years back Iran send assassins to kill Iranian dissidents in Germany, Austria, and Belgium. The assassins were caught and politely returned to Iran on a private plane. No punishment for planned/attempted murder. The West is hopelessly naive about sophisticated and brutal adversaries like Russia and Iran.
It is more general than the west, it is that Good people are naive. They don't understand how many people are willing to lie and kill to get even petty gains from it. The USA is struggling with this asymmetry internally right now too. We are slowly and politely trying to prosecute people who attempted to overturn an election while they incite civil unrest and pass laws protecting themselves from prosecution
Yes, if only they frequented social media, they might have some clue what Chinese, Russian, and Iranian security services were up to. Alas for their naivete...
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Especially impressive about westerners is their honesty about the shortcomings of their own nations.
I'm in the west and I'm often the only person in the room who is aware that the US has been murdering children in almost a dozen countries around the globe for the past two decades. Like they are vaguely aware on a surface level but they haven't really conceptualized the fact and say things like "Russias unprecedented invasion!" dramatically and as if they had a moral leg to stand on.
Do you want to spell out what countries, specifically, you have in mind here?
This story is being falsely flagged.
@dang I realise you're probably incredibly busy, but are you able to remove the flag, please?