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Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by dontupvoteme »

kragen wrote: post #65
okeuro49 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic, but: > The right to erasure is also known as ‘the right to be forgotten’. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-re...

no such right exists; that would be like the right to rob with impunity of course clever demagogues and rhetoricians can write such things into legislation, just as they can write legislation that claims you have no right to speak freely, but that just makes the legislation incorrect, like the famous legislation declaring pi to be exactly 3

digital computing machines did not exist when philosophers and thinkers were busy coming up with and refining the concepts of rights between antiquity and relatively recent human history.

If you were familiar with the fallibility of human memory you wouldn't have made such a post

some of us practice sufficiently OK OPSEC to prevent this from becoming an issue but it doesn't mean that we don't have to look out for the greater good of society against unwarranted centralization of technological power.

feel free to breach such legislation if you deem it in your best interests

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by afavour »

silver-arrow wrote: post #98

Great news. I have had good success and a rewarding experience using htmx the past year. It has been so great in tandem with Clojure using hiccup for SSR. Once htmx clicks for you, you are almost left stunned by how simple and flexible it is. You can't believe that this isn't how HTML evolved to as a hypermedia. It becomes very obvious that this is how web development should have evolved. I hope someday that what htm…

> It becomes very obvious that this is how web development should have evolved.

I have to disagree with that. I’m happy htmx exists and that it works for many but in my professional life I've found few cases where it's the best choice. And that’s fine! It’s a wonderful thing that the web has been able to grow in so many diverse ways, there should be no one way it “should have evolved”.

IMO this is the biggest mistake in web dev in the last decade or so: that there should be One Right Way. No matter if you’re making the next Gmail or if you’re making a static blog the cargo cult of an industry tells you it should all be done the same way when common sense would tell you that’s not the case at all.

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by norwalkbear »

PedroBatista wrote: post #28

I've been a HTMX fan "since before was cool".. Very happy for the recent attention and "success". Also enjoying the shitposting and backlash mostly from the front-end crowd who believe the Web was invented in 2013 and they "made that city". :) I'm biased since the time Backbone.js came around, I understood part of the pain but was moderately skeptical, fast forward to React with the young energetic bros building dead…

React is very diverse community, who are these react bros?

I went to a series of JavaScript conferences and React is extremely diverse.

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by 0xParlay »

silver-arrow wrote: post #98

Great news. I have had good success and a rewarding experience using htmx the past year. It has been so great in tandem with Clojure using hiccup for SSR. Once htmx clicks for you, you are almost left stunned by how simple and flexible it is. You can't believe that this isn't how HTML evolved to as a hypermedia. It becomes very obvious that this is how web development should have evolved. I hope someday that what htm…

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Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by thefreeman »

agumonkey wrote: post #89
fleetfox wrote: post #80

There are many applications where htmlx is objectively the best tool. But i really hate all the hype around it and people pushing it as react replacement.

Had an heated debate with someone that was really angry at everything react, for good reasons, but being oblivious that htmx can't replace client side logic. React hype + backend crowd I guess.

as a primarily backend dev I really don't see the appeal here. So now I need to make endpoints for every little UI element that I want to be updated by user interactions? And somehow keep it styled and matching all of the UI elements rendered on the frontend? No thanks, I'll just give you data and you can present it however you please.

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by norwalkbear »

jddj wrote: post #47
PedroBatista wrote: post #28

I've been a HTMX fan "since before was cool".. Very happy for the recent attention and "success". Also enjoying the shitposting and backlash mostly from the front-end crowd who believe the Web was invented in 2013 and they "made that city". :) I'm biased since the time Backbone.js came around, I understood part of the pain but was moderately skeptical, fast forward to React with the young energetic bros building dead…

I hear you're buying a synthesizer and an arpeggiator and are throwing your computer out the window because you want to make something real. I hear that you and your band have sold your guitars and bought turntables. I hear you rewrote your http endpoints to return JSON because that was REST. I hear that you and your band have sold your turntables and bought guitars. I hear you rewrote your http endpoints to return t…

I suspect VC distorts value in tech choices.

I'm pitching a mobile app built in Unity and a custom ruby backend on digital ocean.

They questioned my tech choices on a working app! Apparently if you want VC money you must use their approved tech stacks.

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by danpalmer »

norwalkbear wrote: post #110

Coming from the Unity world, I find frontend development on the web weird as hell. When accounting for the limited amount of time and mental load people have, wouldn't the best bang for your buck be doing react/vue/js?

Arguably you’ve got to learn HTML, so why then add learning React/etc on top of that?

HTMX is more limited, but also _radically_ simpler to modern frontend development.

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by aCoreyJ »

0xParlay wrote: post #114
silver-arrow wrote: post #98

Great news. I have had good success and a rewarding experience using htmx the past year. It has been so great in tandem with Clojure using hiccup for SSR. Once htmx clicks for you, you are almost left stunned by how simple and flexible it is. You can't believe that this isn't how HTML evolved to as a hypermedia. It becomes very obvious that this is how web development should have evolved. I hope someday that what htm…

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You don't do your conspiracy theory any favors by making absurd blanket statements

Re: Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator

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Post by norwalkbear »

DrDroop wrote: post #75

I've a hard time taking htmx serious for building a modern web app/site. It makes is impossible to build features that users have come to expect: * Faceted search with configurable filters, like filter date on before, between or after, but only show the filter if the user wants it. * Configure result view with different columns or even different views like maps or drawing something on a canvas like charts. You can ma…

I have the same thoughts lately. People expect high interactivity these days.
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