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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by dijit »

simoncion wrote: post #104
dijit wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only because it was successful.

There are many active 'master' branches at work, and many, many active 'master' branches on Github. By that measure, the movement to rename every 'master' branch to 'main' has been a resounding failure. (If you look at the events at the time it sprung up, you could pretty safely say that it was encouraged as a way to distract from the then-current "GitHub is doing business with US's ICE!" hatestorm, and man was it su…

If your only active metric is "all or nothing". Sure, there's a few.

But the major git hosting platforms are only using 'main' as the default for new branches, and there is significant enough social stigma for new projects that it's preferred to use main.

I don't have precise statistics, but I would happily wager that even though master was the default for so long that the majority of git repositories that have been contributed to in the last 30 days are not 'master' as the default branch name.

To change a default with such inertia as to completely skew the demographic in favour of the new rather than the status quo: I would certainly merit that as success.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by VincentEvans »

undefinedland wrote: post #92
VincentEvans wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps the difference is having heritage vs having lived for a large portion of life and still having ties and relatives there? Also, please elaborate. How does does having come from Poland figure into this conversation? You yearn for Soviet rule and hate what capitalism stands for? Or sympathize with Russian justifications for their aggression against a neighbor state and their own people? I can only speculate lack…

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You are repeating russian propaganda and there are people far smarter than I that have repeatedly tried to explain why it is such and failed, and I won’t bother trying.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by [deleted] »

cod1r wrote: post #81
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #13

>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow? Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results all of which are wrong or useless. Yandex image search actually works. If you don’t want me to use the Russia…

Yandex search is superior 100%. I use it too when I'm trying to reverse search for an image.

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

roenxi wrote: post #48
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #13

>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow? Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results all of which are wrong or useless. Yandex image search actually works. If you don’t want me to use the Russia…

There is a reasonable argument that, as a minor nobody, we should rather use services from hostile countries. It isn't feasible for Russia to to compel someone in an English-speaking country to do something unpleasant. That is a lot more than can be said for the local police or politicians. Russian corruption doesn't generally touch Western governments - the atmosphere is too hostile to it.

> Russian corruption doesn't generally touch Western governments

Russia has an asset in British goverbment, in the hoise of lords!

Have you neber heard of Baron Lebedev, of Hampton in the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames and of Siberia in the Russian Federation??

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evgeny_Lebedev

Current Government was taking political dotations from Russian oligarchs, officially, but somehow thos gets postes

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-58711151

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by whimsicalism »

azangru wrote: post #54
londons_explore wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war Would you issue such a statement in his position? Think carefully. If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name. If you do, your family back home might be at risk, and you will probably never be able to visit them again. Personally, I cannot in good faith demand anyone condemn the war, if to do so, they are putting fami…

> If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name. Do Twitter crowds actually do that? Do they keep track of anyone more or less prominent, and write in their comments "Have you spoken out against the war yet?" "I haven't seen you denounce the war"?

I have seen this numerous times on Twitter explicitly with almost the exact phrasing you are indicating.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by alwayslikethis »

roenxi wrote: post #48
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #13

>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow? Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results all of which are wrong or useless. Yandex image search actually works. If you don’t want me to use the Russia…

There is a reasonable argument that, as a minor nobody, we should rather use services from hostile countries. It isn't feasible for Russia to to compel someone in an English-speaking country to do something unpleasant. That is a lot more than can be said for the local police or politicians. Russian corruption doesn't generally touch Western governments - the atmosphere is too hostile to it.

I have a better way to frame this. A hostile country is less interested in low profile users and is not as able/willing to use the data it collects against the user. Committed tax evasion / breach of contract / fraud? Russia is much less likely to care than your own government.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by AlecSchueler »

roenxi wrote: post #48
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #13

>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow? Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results all of which are wrong or useless. Yandex image search actually works. If you don’t want me to use the Russia…

There is a reasonable argument that, as a minor nobody, we should rather use services from hostile countries. It isn't feasible for Russia to to compel someone in an English-speaking country to do something unpleasant. That is a lot more than can be said for the local police or politicians. Russian corruption doesn't generally touch Western governments - the atmosphere is too hostile to it.

But it's a fallacy to see the concern being about them having your individual data, right? The concern is the power of the information they yield when they have access to our collective data.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by whimsicalism »

I feel like this whole neo-cold war against China & Russia was never put up for a vote. Where can I vote against it?

Please, let's all just get rich together. Governments democratize over time - the UK wasn't a democracy when it started out but over 1000 years of governance transitioned into being one. I suspect it will be much faster nowadays, but in the meantime - please no war.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by someone321 »

afavour wrote: post #83
chaosbolt wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow? (answering to the OP) Yes, there is nothing the Russians can do with my data that my government hasn't done. >Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results…

> Yes, there is nothing the Russians can do with my data that my government hasn't done. I understand anti-government sentiment but whenever I see a statement like this it makes me devalue anything that comes after it. You really think there is nothing a foreign government might do with your personal data that your government hasn't already done? You really feel like there's a similar level of accountability at stake…

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by mistrial9 »

londons_explore wrote: post #42
throw-ru-938 wrote: post #17

Context: Yandex is in the news right now because a couple of days ago its cofounder and former CEO Arkady Volozh was caught trying to hide his Russian past [0], and today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war [1], almost 1.5 years after the full-scale invasion began. [0] https://kz.kursiv.media/en/2023-08-07/co-founder-of-yandex-e... [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-yandex-volozh..…

> today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war Would you issue such a statement in his position? Think carefully. If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name. If you do, your family back home might be at risk, and you will probably never be able to visit them again. Personally, I cannot in good faith demand anyone condemn the war, if to do so, they are putting fami…

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