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Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by dugite-code »

Fyrezerk wrote: post #99
anaisbetts wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? You think that a modern consumer/professional operating system, upon double-clicking a video, should do nothing? That's a thing that you would ship to an entire planet full of Regular People and say "Yes, this is the Right Thing. You should be happy about this result"

The Linux hivemind on HN would say that's OK, but that mindset is also why Linux has such a dismal consumer base. There should be a video player built it by default, yes, but it should also be easy to remove if you so choose.

Don't know when you last tried a Linux distro but most Linux distro's come with a video player out of the box and have done for the better part of the last 10 years at the very least

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by KeyBoardG »

netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

Some people are stuck due to driver support. As streaming has been growing, ElGato has zero official support for Linux. I solved this by relegating Windows to a tiny 1 liter PC after enough Windows anti-patterns.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by KeyBoardG »

layer8 wrote: post #59
KirillPanov wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slow?

It started with Windows 8, which was released 11 years ago. If the enshittification keeps roughly the same velocity, I’d estimate at least another decade or so before it crosses my personal pain threshold. Microsoft’s cloudification strategy may become another factor.

My pain threshold was crossed this past week when Edge added a Bing search bar to the middle of the Windows desktop. Even though the default search bar 4 inches away already searches Bing, and the Weather applet by the clock now has sensationalist news forced into it.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by TwoNineA »

netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

>> If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

Let me know when Linux is running games that have Easy Anti Cheat or stuff from Blizzard. It's the day I will ditch my windows gaming rig. Until then, kindly STFU.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

TwoNineA wrote: post #114
netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

>> If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint. Let me know when Linux is running games that have Easy Anti Cheat or stuff from Blizzard. It's the day I will ditch my windows gaming rig. Until then, kindly STFU.

StarCraft 2 and WoW ran great before Blizzard made the launcher not work. On the plus side, I mercifully no longer want to play the mediocre games of that horrible (soon to be owned by Microsoft like Bethesda? kekw) company. :D By being so unbelievably scummy and shitty for the last few years (aligning exactly with my shift to Linux), Blizzard and Bethesda have gone from my favorite game companies to my most hated, which is awful kind of them for eliminating the dilemma of dual booting.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by Gud »

MrYellowP wrote: post #109
Gud wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly. A video player should be easily installed via the operating systems package manager.

Rando: "Gud, why's there no video player installed? How do I get to play my video player?" Gud: "Just use the operating system's package manager." Rando: "What's that? How do I find it?" Gud explains what it is and how to find it. Rando: "Wow, finally found it. What do I do next?" Gud: "You search for a video player. Try [...]." Rando: "I can't find it. This sucks. Why is there no video player installed by default? M…

?

Normally you would select which software to install during initial setup.

And FWIW, there is no way it would take me 2 hours assisting someone with installing a video player. Maybe 10 minutes.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by jrm4 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #44
netbioserror wrote: post #4

If you turn the complexity curve of debloating and custom Windows ROMs about 90 degrees, it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint.

>it's the same as the backwards bend Windows users are doing to avoid jumping to something easier like Linux Mint No need to be snarky for a cheap shot at windows users who never bothered you with anything, not everyone is trying to avoid jumping or trying to jump. Get out of your (tech) bubble and touch some grass, plenty of Average Joe users are contempt using what's familiar and works for them out of the box with…

Oh, the sensitivity of the Windows defender.

I'll keep repeating this. I've been doing "installing operating systems and intro to IT courses" for well over a decade now, for many different types of users at many skill levels.

Out of the box Linux (e.g. Mint) is an across the board better operating system for anyone who doesn't need anything specifically tied to Windows. It's easier, it just works.

I admit that it's not all "Linux people are awesome" as much as I would like -- it's "most everything most people need is available on the Web," which Linux is very good at.

The Linux experience is roughly equal to the Mac experience, and Windows is third. Inertia is presently Windows Desktop only advantage.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by housemusicfan »

dugite-code wrote: post #111
Fyrezerk wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Linux hivemind on HN would say that's OK, but that mindset is also why Linux has such a dismal consumer base. There should be a video player built it by default, yes, but it should also be easy to remove if you so choose.

Don't know when you last tried a Linux distro but most Linux distro's come with a video player out of the box and have done for the better part of the last 10 years at the very least

Correction: most Linux distros come with 12 video players out of the box (and at least 7 calculator apps)...... the philosophy of "we can't decide so just include them all" is pretty strong.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by yifanl »

anaisbetts wrote: post #78
n4te wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, no it shouldn't.

Really? You think that a modern consumer/professional operating system, upon double-clicking a video, should do nothing? That's a thing that you would ship to an entire planet full of Regular People and say "Yes, this is the Right Thing. You should be happy about this result"

Nothing's stopping you from rebloating your OS after running this debloat command.

Re: Win11Debloat is a simple script that removes pre-installed windows bloatware

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Post by rationalist »

MrYellowP wrote: post #109
Gud wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly. A video player should be easily installed via the operating systems package manager.

Rando: "Gud, why's there no video player installed? How do I get to play my video player?" Gud: "Just use the operating system's package manager." Rando: "What's that? How do I find it?" Gud explains what it is and how to find it. Rando: "Wow, finally found it. What do I do next?" Gud: "You search for a video player. Try [...]." Rando: "I can't find it. This sucks. Why is there no video player installed by default? M…

Rando: "I don't like this player. I want a different one."

Gud: It's the player installed by default.

Gud spends the next two hours helping Rando install a non-default video player (and possibly battling Microsoft for the default apps for all of the different file types associations).

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