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Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by oh_sigh »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #21
frfl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the Wikipedia page was just updated, following this post, but it's fairly clear right now. It says fairly clearly in the infobox, "Jensen Huang (表舅 or first cousin once removed)"

> It says fairly clearly in the infobox, "Jensen Huang (表舅 or first cousin once removed)" It was already there, but depending where you're from, "first cousin once removed" might not mean anything to you, especially if English is not your mother tongue. Seeing a family tree makes it clear for everyone regardless of language or culture what the relationship is.

Except it doesn't! In fact, first cousin once removed(FCOR) can mean both: your parent's sibling's grandchild, OR your grandparent's sibling's child. These are usually two very different relationships(if they exist) - the former FCOR is usually much younger than you, like a niece/nephew, and the latter FCOR is usually much older than you, and more like an aunt/uncle

I wager most native English speakers understand the concept of cousin, but not first/second/etc cousins, nor once/twice/etc removed.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by hot_gril »

AbrahamParangi wrote: post #88
mlinhares wrote: post #36

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That's 100% NOT how to enter an Ivy League college, there's a lot of preparation, planning and "tips and tricks" you get by hiring people specialized in "college applications" to get there. The odds you'll get to an Ivy League college without help from college admission consultants and careful planning is pretty close to 0.

Yeah that’s just not true. You can just get good scores and grades, with the caveat here that “good” means atleast 99.5th percentile. Under those conditions I’d estimate your odds of getting into at least one Ivy (or equivalently good school) at around 50%, which might seem low but remember 99.6% of college students do not attend an ivy.

I know an unusually high number of people who went to Ivy Leagues, and none of them had just good grades, in fact some of their grades weren't great at all. They had some special factor. On the other side, the people I knew with absolutely perfect grades and 2400 SAT (this was before the 1600 scale) and no other angles didn't get into a single Ivy League, but still got into very good schools.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #108
bakuninsbart wrote: post #23

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I think a major difference, at least to my country, Germany, is that in the US the university you graduate from has an outsized influence on your career potential, especially when it comes to senior positions at large companies. On the contrary, here in Germany these positions are usually filled through either familial connections or company-internal mentorships. Board members and C-suite often have been with the com…

I think you’re half right. In the US, the university you graduate from has not that much influence in most career paths. For jobs expecting post-graduate education, then it starts to matter a whole lot. Matching into specific medical schools and law schools can have an immense impact on the respective careers. Tech jobs don’t fall into those buckets. You are right about this being different: > On the contrary, here i…

>but private industry is, in my experience, invested in recruiting the best candidates available to them.

Not in Germany. All management positions I saw at big auto makers there were filled based on connections instead of competence. Who you rub shoulders there is very important for your career progression.

I know it because I've seen a long delayed project of a hybrid sports car be even more delayed thanks to the project manager being replaced 3 times because he was an incompetent moron being given a golden parachute to be replaced by an equally incompetent moron, 3 times in a row.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by mytailorisrich »

throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

> In France, most immigrants kids don't even know the possible paths to get into a top school.

Not true.

What happens, and not only in France (it's like that in the UK as well), is that primary and secondary schools that are in not very good areas are not ambitious for their pupils. They'll say average is fine, going to a technical college is very good, etc. so in the end those pupils do not think of taking the "high road" because they've been convinced it is not for them.

On the other hand, if your parents are highly educated and you go to one of the top secondary schools you'll be pushed and told that you should work hard and that you can get into a top university.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by bragr »

Kind of a tangent, but I worked for a Chinese company for a couple years as the only westerner mostly. My coworkers and I had so much confusion talking about family until the mutual realization that we were not using words the same way and understood some concepts differently. That lead to a lot of sitting around and pointing at a family tree going "ok who would this person be to you, how important?", and sometimes really surprising each other. Long way of saying, she may call him uncle, but he's not her uncle in the western European/Anglo-american sense.

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Post by fuklief »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #67
throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

> In France, most immigrants kids don't even know the possible paths to get into a top school. What do you mean? As an immigrant to France when I was in 3rd grade [0], I knew in a couple of months that I had to go to a good high-school, to get into a good prep school, to get into a good grande école. Everybody knows this. And everybody knows how to get there: be good at math, and have good grades in general. [0] In F…

I personally did not know about classes prépa before the last year of high school. I will forever be thankful for my maths teacher who told me about it that year, since I would have probably slacked off at university.

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Post by polygamous_bat »

mustafa_pasi wrote: post #99
agloe_dreams wrote: post #53

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A key element in the US is that VC is a poison. With growth at all costs as a priority, many US companies are focused on getting whomever is willing to push sales over all else, this generally requires a name with a history of success so most internal hires are out. Also, most of these companies won't exist in 20 years to have someone whom has been there for 20 years.

But the US is still performing better on all metrics: 1. more innovation 2. high economic growth 3. better salaries Whatever you are doing works.

> 1. more innovation

How do we quantify it? And how do we know that it is not the result of metric-hacking, as the GP commented, and is actually true "innovation"?

> 2. high economic growth

Same as above.

> 3. better salaries

Only for a small slice of the population. Income inequality is growing across the country, and it is not an obviously good thing if a small fraction of the country is getting boundlessly richer while the rest of the country/world suffers.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by [deleted] »

Kiro wrote: post #28
frfl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the Wikipedia page was just updated, following this post, but it's fairly clear right now. It says fairly clearly in the infobox, "Jensen Huang (表舅 or first cousin once removed)"

"once removed" is not clear at all. To me, it reads like nonsense.

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Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by whimsicalism »

bragr wrote: post #116

Kind of a tangent, but I worked for a Chinese company for a couple years as the only westerner mostly. My coworkers and I had so much confusion talking about family until the mutual realization that we were not using words the same way and understood some concepts differently. That lead to a lot of sitting around and pointing at a family tree going "ok who would this person be to you, how important?", and sometimes r…

Is it western European or anglo? My Portuguese family will call me uncle sometimes but perhaps that is just because first cousin or whatever is too difficult of a concept
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