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CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by 542354234235 »

pleoxy wrote: post #109
eastdakota wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The SEC could throw me in jail. And, sure, you could believe that the FBI or whoever could tell the SEC what to do. We have European and Asian investors too, so their financial regulators could also sue me personally for lying. Perhaps the FBI/CIA/NSA control them too? Gets tricky to believe: the bigger the conspiracy the faster it falls apart. It's really, really hard to be part of some grand conspiracy as a public…

> It's really, really hard to be part of some grand conspiracy as a public company. No it's not. Twitter and Facebook have had defacto government censorship collusion, as suspected by the paranoid. For years and years it was dismissed as conspiracy, but clear evidence has now come out that it was happening in these public companies.

>clear evidence has now come out

Source?

Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by TechTechTech »

acedTrex wrote: post #102
TechTechTech wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, kind of hijacking this conversation but as Cloudflare is unfortunately routing the majority of websites I visit I have to ask this: Can you guarantee my Firefox browser will keep on working on 'the open internet' now Chrome moves towards "Web Environment Integrity" and Safari towards "Private Access Tokens" and Cloudflare is supporting and implementing such technologies on scale? I intent to not participate in th…

How could Cloudflare guarantee websites dont implement WEI in their codebase. that makes no sense

"If you’re a Cloudflare customer:You don’t have to do anything! Cloudflare will automatically ask for and utilize Private Access Tokens"

https://blog.cloudflare.com/eliminating-captchas-on-iphones-...

Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by toss1 »

com wrote: post #100
shapefrog wrote: post #91

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> I'd go to jail for things I'd have illegally signed in our SEC disclosures attesting to the sources of our revenue and any government contracts CIA/FBI/NSA agreements include immunity from prosecution in the US at least. Your problem would be in foreign jurisdictions only.

Immunity from prosecution seems like a marvellous way to destroy rule of law. Crazy that that and royal^H^H^H^H^H presidential pardons exist. Recipe for corruption of the state and then the justice system.

As the purpose of Presidential pardons is to provide the opportunity to right significant miscarriages of justice in system that is almost impossible to get perfect, and that is the way they were typically used, it does not seem crazy that they exist.

What IS crazy is that they exist with very little consideration of a corrupt POTUS, judiciary, and/or congress. Seems the writings of the founders did worry about that significantly in later years, but evidently not in time to enshrine many guardrails in the US Constitution, not even a clear prohibition against self-pardon. Seems such a thing was considered so obviously wrong and corrupt that it didn't need to be mentioned. so here we are two and a half centuries later with people arguing that it should be possible.

Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by nonameiguess »

TechTechTech wrote: post #90
eastdakota wrote: post #73

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These threads amuse me. If adamgamble's speculation were the case, I'd go to jail for things I'd have illegally signed in our SEC disclosures attesting to the sources of our revenue and any government contracts. Suffice it to say, I like not being in jail. It's really, really hard for public companies to be part of some grand conspiracy for so many different reasons. So… once we went public I kind of thought this sil…

Hi, kind of hijacking this conversation but as Cloudflare is unfortunately routing the majority of websites I visit I have to ask this: Can you guarantee my Firefox browser will keep on working on 'the open internet' now Chrome moves towards "Web Environment Integrity" and Safari towards "Private Access Tokens" and Cloudflare is supporting and implementing such technologies on scale? I intent to not participate in th…

I haven't been able to visit a site with Cloudflare's bot protection for over a year because it goes into an infinite loop on Firefox.

Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by Zren »

nonameiguess wrote: post #115
TechTechTech wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, kind of hijacking this conversation but as Cloudflare is unfortunately routing the majority of websites I visit I have to ask this: Can you guarantee my Firefox browser will keep on working on 'the open internet' now Chrome moves towards "Web Environment Integrity" and Safari towards "Private Access Tokens" and Cloudflare is supporting and implementing such technologies on scale? I intent to not participate in th…

I haven't been able to visit a site with Cloudflare's bot protection for over a year because it goes into an infinite loop on Firefox.

That usually happens when I'm faking my user agent to use the most popular (windows + Chrome). Once I go back to the default (Linux + Firefox) then CloudFlare seems to allow it.

Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by acedTrex »

TechTechTech wrote: post #113
acedTrex wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could Cloudflare guarantee websites dont implement WEI in their codebase. that makes no sense

"If you’re a Cloudflare customer:You don’t have to do anything! Cloudflare will automatically ask for and utilize Private Access Tokens" https://blog.cloudflare.com/eliminating-captchas-on-iphones-...

"will you be supporting WEI and PAT in your captcha/ddos protection services" is a VERY different question to "can you guarantee my Firefox browser will continue to work on the open web"

Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by jlbooker »

edandersen wrote: post #38
tick_tock_tick wrote: post #31

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How do you think any CDN works?

By MITMing traffic between you and the host. Maybe Firefox should display a warning when it detects intermediaries that could have decrypted the traffic between the host and you?

I guess you like those cookie warnings that pollute the Internet these days? Because this would be cookie warnings all over again. Any site that's reasonably popular uses a CDN to increase scalability, improve performance, and add reliability. Half the Internet would need a new pop-up warning that a CDN is in use. The last thing we need is yet another pop-up when a page loads....

Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by bananapub »

TechTechTech wrote: post #90
eastdakota wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These threads amuse me. If adamgamble's speculation were the case, I'd go to jail for things I'd have illegally signed in our SEC disclosures attesting to the sources of our revenue and any government contracts. Suffice it to say, I like not being in jail. It's really, really hard for public companies to be part of some grand conspiracy for so many different reasons. So… once we went public I kind of thought this sil…

Hi, kind of hijacking this conversation but as Cloudflare is unfortunately routing the majority of websites I visit I have to ask this: Can you guarantee my Firefox browser will keep on working on 'the open internet' now Chrome moves towards "Web Environment Integrity" and Safari towards "Private Access Tokens" and Cloudflare is supporting and implementing such technologies on scale? I intent to not participate in th…

what a truly ridiculous question to ask the ceo of cloudflare.

Re: CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

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Post by powersnail »

cassianoleal wrote: post #89
powersnail wrote: post #72

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Does CloudFlare proxy your website without your permission?

It doesn't, but it does proxy my connections to several websites without my me having a chance to say no - in fact, without even telling me.

It’s always the website’s choice what infrastructure is used to serve the website, including whether a proxy is used. You don’t have a chance to say no if the website owner wants a proxy in front of their site. The web owner has a say in how they want their server to be connected.

In the same way, you can use a proxy to access sites, and the server cannot bypass that, either.

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