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GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Post by enneff »

userbinator wrote: post #95
zeroCalories wrote: post #4

Haha, I can't deny that I love the catty drama that happens around the free software community. While I do wish people would get along better for the health of the project, I also suspect that these strong characters are why the movement hasn't been completedo taken over by corporate interests.

One can't help but wonder if the corporate interests are actually responsible for creating this drama as an attempt to derail or impede these projects.

It has happened before. But it doesn’t really matter whether that’s what’s happening here, as it doesn’t affect how you need to deal with it.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Post by Gigachad »

userbinator wrote: post #95
zeroCalories wrote: post #4

Haha, I can't deny that I love the catty drama that happens around the free software community. While I do wish people would get along better for the health of the project, I also suspect that these strong characters are why the movement hasn't been completedo taken over by corporate interests.

One can't help but wonder if the corporate interests are actually responsible for creating this drama as an attempt to derail or impede these projects.

I doubt it. The libreboot maintainer is just unstable and willing to cause huge amounts of drama whenever possible.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Post by Incipient »

amatecha wrote: post #97
evasb wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Rather than append an edit at the end, just delete your post if it was completely debunked, otherwise people, like myself, read a paragraph of text only to learn it's all apparently "debunked".

It's an interesting point. I think it's educational to have people obviously adjusting their position when corrected. It's almost a rarity these days, and I think someone accepting they were wrong is refreshing!

Granted, the TLDR at the top would have helped haha, especially if it was a long post.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

#114

Post by Gigachad »

LukeShu wrote: post #41
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #18

Why is Libreboot always in the middle of drama? Is the maintainer just that kind of person?

There was the spat of drama in 2016, and the view of "always in the middle of drama" is IMO confirmation bias since then (the financial trouble in 2020, then Leah's return to libreboot in 2021.) Today's drama is part of larger culture wars going on in the community: - The pro-RMS vs anti-RMS thing going on since RMS's removal from the FSF in 2019, much amplified by his reinstatement in 2021 (the latter of which lead…

The FSF lost its way at least 10 years ago, though probably longer. The whole tech landscape has shifted while they still focus on the distinction between firmware stored on a wifi card nand vs being loaded on initialisation. No one but RMS can work out how this makes a difference.

Their non budging stance on issues that hardly make sense or are logically inconsistent, meanwhile society is rapidly shifting to a constant mandatory surveillance state.

At this point the FSF is just a Richard Stallman fan club. So kicking him out would scrap their last bit of relevance.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

#115

Post by bombolo »

wkat4242 wrote: post #37
artyom wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm 100% with you on that. Strong free software leadership (e.g. classic Torvalds), despite all its problems, is naturally anti-corporation. Anyone with a real job in a moderately Big Co. can tell you that.

Is it really though? Look at the who's who of the Linux foundation and it's all the big tech lackeys deciding everything. Even very questionable companies like Huawei are highly represented. I don't call that anti-corporate.

To non-americans, all the companies in the linux foundation are as questionable as huawei.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Post by bombolo »

wkat4242 wrote: post #38
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said cohesive, not 'kohesive'.

KDE is by far the better desktop, Gnome will never be great as long as they abhor choice. The "you're using it wrong" is too strong there.

and yet people love apple

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Post by genezeta »

p0d wrote: post #85
Dwedit wrote: post #69

Libreboot is such an unfortunate name, as you could also read the name as a library dedicated to rebooting a computer.

I didn't downvote you by the way, was someone else. I am in holiday in Spain and surrounded by the use of the word Libre regarding libraries and books. So the same thought as your own also crossed my mind.

> the word Libre regarding libraries and books

That's not really "libre", but either libro (book) or librería (bookshop).

You may see libre on parkings [0].

[0] https://www.burguet.es/fotos/cartel_vinilo_retroiluminado.jp...

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Post by bombolo »

LukeShu wrote: post #92
k_roy wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The pro-RMS vs anti-RMS thing going on since RMS's removal from the FSF in 2019 it's been going on MUCH longer than that. No matter what he's done for free software, he's also a super-creep based on some of his comments

I mean, yes, but it was brought to a crest then. It went from a bunch of folks in the community separately saying "yeah, he's kinda problematic..." to a bunch of folks standing together and saying "he's problematic!" So of course it had been going on a while if more than 3000 people were "suddenly" willing to sign the open letter against him.

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Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Post by FireInsight »

bubblethink wrote: post #45

Completely pointless drama, but there is a real issue here in that people (phoronix) mistook the unofficial one for the real one ( https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNU-Boot-20230717 ). This is their way of interjecting.

This is kind of the fault of phoronix, as Leah's release was always marked as unofficial.
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