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Anyone have any knowledge of how the new CEO and Elons relationship is regarding the business? I'd be curious how the conversation goes with her about this kinda stuff.

He hired her a couple months ago. He has been public about building the X “everything app” for a while. Presumably she already knew about that when she took the role.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

#112

Musk can seem to do no right atm, I see a lot of hate out there with this name change and planned product expansion but I can’t quite understand why. He’s taking an underperforming social network and trying to make it work. It might prove fatal, but it would have died a slow boring death in its old form. Perhaps its just that people don’t like his personality, which shouldn’t come into it. Fwiw even prior to his defu…

Here's why this particular choice was foolish:

1) He's going to lose a TON of brand recognition overnight.

2) He seems to have gone from "I'm thinking about doing this" to "We're going live" over the course of a weekend. This is both rushed and more based on reaction than actual thought and research. I don't see any of his customers wanting this.

3) Morale for employees there already seems to be terrible. Having them implement a rebrand over a weekend on a whim makes him seem like a dictator.

4) From a practical perspective the name X is foolish. The word "tweeted" is a verb used every day on the news. Companies would kill to have that level of their product within the culture. Now they will say what? "exed"? No one will say that because the audience won't know what it means and it has the negative connotation of something you've moved away from (ex-husband, ex-girlfriend, etc.).

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

#113
post #82

Musk can seem to do no right atm, I see a lot of hate out there with this name change and planned product expansion but I can’t quite understand why. He’s taking an underperforming social network and trying to make it work. It might prove fatal, but it would have died a slow boring death in its old form. Perhaps its just that people don’t like his personality, which shouldn’t come into it. Fwiw even prior to his defu…

Twitter was doing fine. By taking it private, he saddled it with massive debt its current revenue couldn’t service. And every decision thereafter has been half baked and poorly executed. So by trying to “save” it, he’s killing it much quicker than if it had just been left alone.

> Twitter was doing fine.

It was losing $4 million per day.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

#114
Interesting comment on the Register (by Jedit):

However, it's also exactly identical to Unicode character 1D54F - because that's all it is. And if you examine the full "X" logo in detail, you'll notice that the scratch in the background doesn't reach the X because all the logo creator did was put U+1D54F in a black square and slap it onto the backdrop. It's the epitome of laziness.

https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2023/07/24/twitter_...

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

#115
post #24

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He (or a company of his) has had the x.com domain for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.com

No, it changed ownership many times since 1999. > On July 5 2017, Musk repurchased the domain name X.com from PayPal They even took a little jab at him when it happened > "We are delighted to sell the domain x.com back to its previous owner"

Was this message posted on x.com?

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Yes, but those "classes" can be quite wide, there is for example no way they could trademark it for "Class 9: Computer and software products and electrical and scientific products."

Wait until you find out about "apple" and "windows".

Apple and windows are trademarks for software. You would be unable to get the trademark "Apple" for a company selling fruit, or "windows" for a window fitter, and neither could Apple or Microsoft.

𝕏 is a pre-existing symbol used by, and part of a standard character set for, software. You could probably get a trademark on it for a company selling apples, but I highly doubt you could for a software company.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

#117
post #96

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Is this like when that Roman emperor named his horse as a senator, or are we not quite there yet?

The most sane interpretation is that Elon Musk was payed to dilute or destroy Twitter. I can't think of anything else that would make sense. Throwing 44 billion dollars on a company and then gutting it for everything that was valuable including a unique brand that had even its own verb? But the sad reality is probably that a 12 years old narcissist edgelord in the body of a billionaire wanted a vanity plate.

Seems like a reasonable theory if it's the price to be paid by those in power to avoid future revolutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Revolution

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Twitter has been rebranded as 'X'. Elon has the domain x.com and I suppose he wants to use it

Is this like when that Roman emperor named his horse as a senator, or are we not quite there yet?

The US is already there, with an almost brain-dead 90-year old Senator being as good as gone, so that a privately-owned company doing whatever its largest owner thinks fit for the good of the company going forward doesn't even get close to that.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

#119

Interesting comment on the Register (by Jedit): However, it's also exactly identical to Unicode character 1D54F - because that's all it is. And if you examine the full "X" logo in detail, you'll notice that the scratch in the background doesn't reach the X because all the logo creator did was put U+1D54F in a black square and slap it onto the backdrop. It's the epitome of laziness. https://forums.theregister.com/foru…

When it comes to logos, I'm all in favor of laziness. People get way too hung up on something that unimportant.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

#120
post #102

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I'm a PhD student in algebraic geometry and have seldom seen this. IME "X" is a generic name for all kinds of spaces (metric, topological, complex analytic, algebraic...), but I don't remember ever having seen "𝕏". That said, in principal everyone is free to call their spaces how they like. It just makes it easier to read if one sticks to familiar notation.

You're right I should've used "as a symbol" not "as the symbol". It's not terribly common.

Now that I think about it, most double stroked characters really represent "concrete" objects, not generic ones. Like ℙ for projective space, or 𝔸 for affine space. Also 𝔽 is often used together with an index 𝔽_q for the field with q elements.

On the other hand, Wikipedia[1] agrees with you, that 𝕏 is "occasionally" used for metric spaces.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_bold

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