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Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by aaryan610 »

CharlesW wrote: post #110
aaryan610 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I am Aaryan, one of the maintainers at Plane. We currently have the theming settings available under the profile section, where you can set themes like light, dark, custom themes, and more. Thank you for your suggestion; we will certainly work on implementing the system preference setting and find a better placement for the theme switcher.

Hey Aaryan, I just signed up and am taking the tour, and the body copy (#737373 on #070707) is effectively unreadable while sitting outside with my MacBook Air at max brightness. (Hacker News remains easy to read in the same scenario.) For accessibility's sake, it'd be nice if the site met WCAG Level AAA contrast ratio requirements.

Thanks for your feedback. Rest assured that we will carefully consider it and work towards enhancing our color schemes accordingly.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by ctas »

dboreham wrote: post #80

It would be nice if someone implemented a clone of Bugzilla functionality using modern tech. Jira is the wrong thing to copy imho.

What are the unique features or approaches of Bugzilla compared to Jira? Before Jira was a thing, Redmine was (is?) very popular and often received better reviews than Bugzilla, so I was a bit surprised you mentioned Bugzilla.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by IshKebab »

anthonyskipper wrote: post #72
pydry wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The closer you are to agile the more basic your ticketing system needs and vice versa. You could probably do without one at all even.

^ You nailed it. The only issue tracker you need today comes with your source code repo. Both github and gitlab are not only more than sufficient, they are arguably better because the stripped down natures keeps people from doing silly things like all the jira anti-patterns.

I strongly disagree. You can't easily have conversations about issues in Git and even if you could do you really want to have a commit for each message?

I'm aware of some systems that try to tack issue tracking onto Git in a similar way to Fossil, but they just aren't as good as a proper issue tracker.

That said, Jira is a terrible issue tracker. I do not understand how it is so bad given that it is literally its only job.

I used Phabricator for issue tracking in my previous company and it was so far ahead of Jira... It makes no sense.

Something as basic as parent/child issues is barely implemented in Jira. You can only have 2 levels of hierarchy.

You can't put a task in your sprint unless it matches the task filter for that sprint, which means you can't easily track the work of people that work on multiple projects.

You can't even put tasks from multiple projects into one sprint. Realistically you should have a single project for everything.

They haven't even got basic stuff like "refresh the page when information on it changes" working.

And that's before you even get to the core flaw of Jira which is that it encourages product managers to overcomplicate it.

But just because Jira is awful doesn't mean issue trackers in general are. Phabricator's is great. GitHub and Gitlab are basic but decent. I haven't got experience with any others but I'm sure there are great ones.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by IshKebab »

berkes wrote: post #48
slifin wrote: post #19

Does this one allow you to assign more than one person to a ticket?

This bothers me on almost all project management software. What I'd love to see, is to be able to assign one person as the one "responsible" and then assign others ad-hoc when/if they work on-, review-, discuss, or co-author it. Some software allows multiple assignees, but as the ancient management-saying goes: if everyone is responsible, no-one is. So i'd still love to have one person assigned with a special role or…

Yeah this is an issue with my current company's use of Jira. They're super worried about tickets being "lost" so they all have to be assigned to one person, but then that means you can't tell who is actually working on something.

My previous company used Phabricator and you only assigned yourself a task when you actually started working on it. It meant anyone could work on anything - much more agile and much much better knowledge spreading and teamwork.

But I understand where my current company is coming from. You want a "person who is responsible for making sure this eventually gets done" field and a "person who is currently working on this" field.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by smohare »

pydry wrote: post #54
jillesvangurp wrote: post #42

> Simplify your transition to Waterfall, Agile, and other workflows to keep up team's momentum with Cycles and Modules. LOL, at least they are honest about companies doing waterfall style planning being their target audience.

The closer you are to agile the more basic your ticketing system needs and vice versa. You could probably do without one at all even.

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Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by smohare »

IshKebab wrote: post #113
anthonyskipper wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

^ You nailed it. The only issue tracker you need today comes with your source code repo. Both github and gitlab are not only more than sufficient, they are arguably better because the stripped down natures keeps people from doing silly things like all the jira anti-patterns.

I strongly disagree. You can't easily have conversations about issues in Git and even if you could do you really want to have a commit for each message? I'm aware of some systems that try to tack issue tracking onto Git in a similar way to Fossil, but they just aren't as good as a proper issue tracker. That said, Jira is a terrible issue tracker. I do not understand how it is so bad given that it is literally its onl…

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Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by neilv »

Hamuko wrote: post #107
anthonyskipper wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

^ You nailed it. The only issue tracker you need today comes with your source code repo. Both github and gitlab are not only more than sufficient, they are arguably better because the stripped down natures keeps people from doing silly things like all the jira anti-patterns.

I kinda wish we could migrate completely off Jira and just start using GitLab issues instead. Unfortunately that's probably a fat chance when GitLab wants to charge us $99/month/user if we want to grant non-developers access to our GitLab. Jira is like $15/month/user.

I've had good luck with getting GitLab Issues to do an appropriate variation on Kanban, so long as I have their Scoped Labels (which seems to be in the $29/user/month Premium plan). I like the tight integration with the Git workflows, and I like not having to manage yet another SaaS.

Do some of your users need the $99 Ultimate plan, and GitLab salespeople couldn't meet you at workable pricing for your users who mostly only need to use Issues?

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by viewtransform »

TheNewsIsHere wrote: post #93

As someone who typically rejects/hard-passes on products with the SSO tax (sometimes even when there’s budget/will to go with the SSO-included tier), I really appreciate the lack of the SSO tax here. The era for security and in particular identity and auth management to be pay-to-play is long over and I appreciate when projects and businesses are honest about that.

SSO = Single sign-on

"SSO refers to a SaaS or similar vendor allowing a business client to manage user accounts via the client’s own identity provider, without having to rely on the vendor to provide strong authentication with audit logs, and with the ability to create and delete user accounts centrally, for all users, across all software in use by that client."

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by sanitycheck »

IshKebab wrote: post #113
anthonyskipper wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

^ You nailed it. The only issue tracker you need today comes with your source code repo. Both github and gitlab are not only more than sufficient, they are arguably better because the stripped down natures keeps people from doing silly things like all the jira anti-patterns.

I strongly disagree. You can't easily have conversations about issues in Git and even if you could do you really want to have a commit for each message? I'm aware of some systems that try to tack issue tracking onto Git in a similar way to Fossil, but they just aren't as good as a proper issue tracker. That said, Jira is a terrible issue tracker. I do not understand how it is so bad given that it is literally its onl…

As you touched on, the major problem with Jira is actually that it does so much nobody (roughly) knows how to use it.

You get 3 levels if you include Epic (Epic > Task > Subtask).

You can set up a sprint/kanban board filter to cover multiple projects, so this does actualy gives you multiple projects per sprint.

I do agree that it's slow and doesn't update itself to reflect changes.

The two groups of people who hate Jira the most are (1) those who can't get it to work how they want it to and (2) those who have to deal with someone else's mad/broken custom workflow.

Re: Plane – Open-source Jira alternative

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Post by Hamuko »

neilv wrote: post #117
Hamuko wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kinda wish we could migrate completely off Jira and just start using GitLab issues instead. Unfortunately that's probably a fat chance when GitLab wants to charge us $99/month/user if we want to grant non-developers access to our GitLab. Jira is like $15/month/user.

I've had good luck with getting GitLab Issues to do an appropriate variation on Kanban, so long as I have their Scoped Labels (which seems to be in the $29/user/month Premium plan). I like the tight integration with the Git workflows, and I like not having to manage yet another SaaS. Do some of your users need the $99 Ultimate plan, and GitLab salespeople couldn't meet you at workable pricing for your users who mostl…

I don't think you can pick and choose the plans per user? We're currently using the security features of GitLab Ultimate and as far as I've understood it, that's $99/month/user for every user you need on your GitLab license.
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