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Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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What makes them an enterprise option? Why does an enterprise need Postman at all? The collaboration features aren't useful on any size team.

Well, they have the organizational maturity to accommodate enterprise customers, and in contrast to much of this subthread, they don't say things like "just use curl".

In what way do enterprise customers need accommodation? If they all used Insomnia or Firecamp, what would be different?

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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jean yang is pretty much an industry legend at this point, and was hyperfocused on her specific kind of o11y (ebpf based drop-in traffic monitoring) which is an obviously important part of an overall o11y product suite that i think many players would either have to build or buy. i imagine she had her pick of acquirers. edit: check out her interviews! crazy impressive https://www.listennotes.com/top-podcasts/jean-yang…

Companies that pioneered the stateful reconstruction of APIs from raw network events - - Netsil [0] (acquired by Nutanix) - Academic spin-out from UPenn - Pixie Labs [1] (acquired by New Relic) [0]: https://thenewstack.io/netsil-visualizes-performance-microse... [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/10/new-relic-acquires-kuberne...

why do you think these companies, though successful in their own right, never became bigger standalone observability platforms?

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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Companies that pioneered the stateful reconstruction of APIs from raw network events - - Netsil [0] (acquired by Nutanix) - Academic spin-out from UPenn - Pixie Labs [1] (acquired by New Relic) [0]: https://thenewstack.io/netsil-visualizes-performance-microse... [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/10/new-relic-acquires-kuberne...

why do you think these companies, though successful in their own right, never became bigger standalone observability platforms?

While the tech these companies built (stateful reconstruction) is quite hard to engineer, large-scale observability platforms like Datadog were much more successful as they could cover a much larger surface area with minimal incremental effort. Even APM companies like New Relic and AppD struggled to justify the value they were delivering with their well-engineered code-level agents in the face of large-scale server/process metrics collection done by the Datadog agent.

In addition, these techniques have been prone to event misses (partial reconstruction) in case the ring buffer overflows and are ineffective in the face of SSL traffic.

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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I have a few qualms with this app: 1. For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software. 2. It doesn't actually replace a USB drive. Most people I know e-mail files to themselves or host them s…

Has this sarcastic rejoinder actually held up, though? "Dropbox’s stock falls as it struggles to squeeze more revenue from existing customers" - https://siliconangle.com/2023/02/16/dropboxs-stock-falls-str...

Given the comment was made 16 years ago, I think so.

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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I don’t get the appeal of Postman. Collections are great but I’ve always preferred plain old curl.

How do you refresh your bearer token when needed, and have it automatically apply to all 20 api's you are curling. Bash scripts or whatever don't count, because then you aren't using "plain old curl"

Define custom fish functions to generate bearer tokens.

Also... I think you're being a little pedantic here. Bash scripts are the automation already available to every terminal users. Their use is implied.

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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postman was essentially built as a easy GUI version of curl. Once it went the VC route it kinda jumped the shark.

> X was essentially built as a easy GUI version of Y. Once it went the VC route it kinda jumped the shark. Pretty much applies to a lot of startups. VC money does weird things.

Not "weird" -- that's literally the operational model of VC. It is all about increasing the valuation of the invested company, as quickly as possible, and then selling it while the evaluation is high. Once a company gets VC investment, this is the only route that matters (unless the board somehow resists the dominance of the VC shareholders, which is extremely difficult to achieve).

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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This is a very uninformed comment. It’s like saying web browser doesn’t do anything that curl doesn’t. It’s technically true but not really. But it’s also technically incorrect. Even on request level, not speaking about all the things on top that Postman does, Postman also does grpc and graphql (edit: and websocket), which curl doesn’t. Once you start adding all the features, it’s very hard to replace Postman with an…

I'm pretty sure curl does support GraphQL. It's a little weird with the formatting but it can be done. Postman can even export a GraphQL request to a curl command.

ah you might be right.

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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Congrats to the Akita team! Repository is 2 years old. That's a pretty quick exit.

Thank you! I've been at it since 2018 and we've been working on the repo since 2020, after pivoting from API security. -Jean from Akita

Congrats, Jean! Hope it's a good integration. -- Dave

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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Has this sarcastic rejoinder actually held up, though? "Dropbox’s stock falls as it struggles to squeeze more revenue from existing customers" - https://siliconangle.com/2023/02/16/dropboxs-stock-falls-str...

Given the comment was made 16 years ago, I think so.

16 years ago it was plausible to say Dropbox was going to be a massive success in the future. Now we're in the future we know it wasn't.

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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why do you think these companies, though successful in their own right, never became bigger standalone observability platforms?

While the tech these companies built (stateful reconstruction) is quite hard to engineer, large-scale observability platforms like Datadog were much more successful as they could cover a much larger surface area with minimal incremental effort. Even APM companies like New Relic and AppD struggled to justify the value they were delivering with their well-engineered code-level agents in the face of large-scale server/p…

concise summary. thank you! i guess simple is best.
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