See. They don't care about the LLaMA model leak. It turns out that it was OpenAI that cares because it ruins their moat. It costs Meta nothing to release a better open-source or freely available version of LLaMA again. Still waiting for the 'Meta is dying' and 'Fire Mark Zuckerberg' calls from last year. A year later, where are they now?
Meta to release open-source commercial AI model
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#112I have a 128 core Threadripper, a 2080 Ti and a 3080 Ti. How can I play with open source LLM's locally?
If you're just looking to play with something locally for the first time, this is the simplest project I've found and has a simple web UI: https://github.com/cocktailpeanut/dalai It works for 7B/13B/30B/65B LLaMA and Alpaca (fine-tuned LLaMA which definitely works better). The smaller models at least should run on pretty much any computer.
Also, it has no "1 click" exe release like kobold.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Copyright laws should be amended to allow this scenario. If I read a book and write about it in a blog, it is considered review. Why shouldn’t we allow companies to do the same to train their models? Overall it will benefit society more than it hurts some rich authors.
I think it’s a mistake/fallacy to equate the human acquisition of knowledge and resulting synthesis of value with that of large-scale computers ingesting the sum total of written human knowledge and the outcomes that enables. They are not similar, and I suspect that if they were (i.e. humans could absorb that much information), the information landscape and the market models for exchanging value would look nothing li…
You can't take a regime that works decently with human-rate copying and convert it to computer-rate copying, because fundamentally the give-and-take of rights to each side is balanced against feasible limits of reproduction.
Or, to put it another way, if you can copy/synthesize at most 1 book a day, I can extend you a lot more implicit rights... than I can afford to someone who can copy/synthesize every book ever in a day.
Re: Meta to release open-source commercial AI model
#114I have a 128 core Threadripper, a 2080 Ti and a 3080 Ti. How can I play with open source LLM's locally?
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
While this may be true, the reverse is also true, and even if it’s legal, there are other ways to frame this that are worth considering, e.g. It could technically be legal, but not in accordance with the spirit of the law. Updates to laws are required. The fact that the model is legal is an additional problem on top of the gap in the law. I think my main point here is that “legal” does not imply moral or acceptable t…
Right but if you have a plausible case you weren't breaking the law and it was a legal unknown the most that will happen is "we've decided this is officially illegal, stop doing it." You risk nothing by assuming things are legal until explicitly illegal.
More interesting is the broader conversation which involves society’s response to a major shift in the information economy, new questions about what role these tools should play, and how laws should evolve accordingly.
The factors surrounding the emergence/unfolding of AI tooling can’t be stripped down to just the corporate interests involved.
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#116From the recent story about the Sarah Silverman lawsuit: The complaint lays out in steps why the plaintiffs believe the datasets have illicit origins — in a Meta paper detailing LLaMA, the company points to sources for its training datasets, one of which is called ThePile, which was assembled by a company called EleutherAI. ThePile, the complaint points out, was described in an EleutherAI paper as being put together…
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The source code is all the supporting code needed to run inference on the weights. This is usually python and in the case of llama it's already open source. Usually the source code is referred to as the "model". You can kind of think of the weights as a settings file in a normal desktop application. The desktop app has its own source code and loads in the settings file at runtime. It can load different settings files…
I thought model is the output of training. It's a binary file black box. That's what I had read somewhere.
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#118Meta is going to ruin open ais moat on purpose. Great business strategy and good for everyone but metas competitors
Quite the opposite, this is great for Meta's competitors. Meta is not trying to get market share with this strategy, it's trying to commoditize their complements ( https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/ ) Content is a complement to a social network: the cheaper it is to create content, the more content is available, the easier it is to optimize a feed, the larger the time people spend in the pla…
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It's an area of active research: https://ai.googleblog.com/2023/06/announcing-first-machine-u...
Which means we are probably at least 5-10 years away from verifiable action that a court of law will recognize.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes, I wonder what if someone in XYZ country downloads whole of Z-Library/Libgen, all the books ever printed, and all the papers ever published, all the newspapers and so on. and releases the model open source. There are jurisdictions with Lax rules. And they will have much better knowledge, answers, etc than the western, Lawyer approved models. Sometimes knowledge needs to be set free I guess.
The production of knowledge needs to be funded as it isn’t “free”. Copyright and licensing is one model that has worked for a long time. It has flaws, but it has produced good things. At this point with the quality of current web content and the collapse of journalism as an industry I think we can say online ads have utterly failed as a replacement income stream. Unless you want all LLM to say “I’m sorry the data I w…
By some definition of "worked". If we define "worked" as "made money for", who it worked mostly for are the middlemen and a minority of writers... a minority that with the advent of LLMs is likely to shrink even further.