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Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's sucky to see these tools constantly getting nerfed. I get that there are large questions out there about things like "browse with bing" but that's why I thought it was supposed to be a limited alpha preview. If OpenAI wants us to build workflows on their stack, they need to really crystalize and figure out what that stack is without changing the underlying stack every 5 minutes…

> Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's sucky to see these tools constantly getting nerfed.

Why would it be popular to nerf tools? I thought people all preferred the more powerful LLM models.

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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My understanding is none of us here has any understanding what they do or don't do. We literally have no idea what's going on inside OpenAI.

Such an open company... /s Edit RE below comment: The company was literally named that as it was started to be the "open" AI company, given the dangers of centralization of such tech. From Wikipedia -- The organization stated it would "freely collaborate" with other institutions and researchers by making its patents and research open to the public.[

OpenAI publishes a huge amount of research and makes huge amounts of data available for research. They do collaborate with other institutions and researchers.

eg:

GPT-2: paper https://d4mucfpksywv.cloudfront.net/better-language-models/l... with code: https://github.com/openai/gpt-2, output dataset https://github.com/openai/gpt-2-output-dataset and a bunch of blog posts with all manner of details

GPT-3: paper https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.14165 dataset https://github.com/openai/gpt-3

etc etc.

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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I suppose but people would listen to your accent and agree that it does sound like a Maine accent once you give them something to compare it to.

That was already “solved” years ago: some companies train outsourcers to have specific accents.

This is why I love Schwab: the folks on the other end always tell you exactly where they're from and they're lovely.

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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"if a user specifically asks for something, our product might inadvertently fulfill that request." If that's something that needs fixing, the product seems fundamentally broken unless the product isn't designed to work for the "user", and if that's the case, I'm not interested in being a "user" of an adversarial product that also occasionally lies to my face. Powerful AI on the desktop can't happen soon enough. Even…

>Powerful AI on the desktop can't happen soon enough. Good luck finding usefull content in the web afterwards. You think email spam is bad wait for the same level of content spam because AI text generators.

We're basically there already. It seems like many google searches just return link after link of identical content taken from various other pages. They are as unique and accurate as lyric websites.

The good news is that my AI would filter those for me! Whatever bad AI brings us, as long as people have access to it themselves then we're on a level playing field and the arms race continues as normal

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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There's a screenshot in the article I linked/wrote (part of the inspiration to write this). How many examples do you want? A cursory browse of HN or the ChatGPT subreddit would give you many such examples. You can also experiment with this yourself.

> How many examples do you want? Three would be great.

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Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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It's probably fine for me if they just want to nerf the ability to bypass paywalls. But it's very common now for me that I found something lengthy and informative, pull the URL and ask ChatGPT to summarize. If that is also nerfed then people will have to turn to self-hosted interfaces :(

Try kagi summarizer, it works pretty great

Kagi summarizer is good indeed! But after trying out Kagi search for a while I feel like it just can't replace Google :(

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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Try kagi summarizer, it works pretty great

Kagi summarizer is good indeed! But after trying out Kagi search for a while I feel like it just can't replace Google :(

What did you miss?

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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Such an open company... /s Edit RE below comment: The company was literally named that as it was started to be the "open" AI company, given the dangers of centralization of such tech. From Wikipedia -- The organization stated it would "freely collaborate" with other institutions and researchers by making its patents and research open to the public.[

OpenAI publishes a huge amount of research and makes huge amounts of data available for research. They do collaborate with other institutions and researchers. eg: GPT-2: paper https://d4mucfpksywv.cloudfront.net/better-language-models/l... with code: https://github.com/openai/gpt-2 , output dataset https://github.com/openai/gpt-2-output-dataset and a bunch of blog posts with all manner of details GPT-3: paper https:/…

but as soon as they mined gold they closed the information hose?

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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"safety" is such a wrong term for what they're trying to achieve that it makes me wonder if it's not just a PR stunt.

Or doublespeak for censorship. Many will let liberties fade under the guise of safety.

"I don't have anything to hide" will one distant day become one of the biggest cautionary tales we've ever had, I'm calling it.
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