Twitter Is DDOSing Itself • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by 0xblinq » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:03 PM UTC

Macha wrote: post #94

pronik wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Early days of Twitter were just like that. Mastodon hasn't had the time to go to shit yet.

The point of it is that it isn't a company but a standard, so if one instance owner goes crazy and patches ads in you can move to another (or your own) and keep your network

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I’m still new to it. Wouldn’t you have the same problem as with an email address? I mean, your handle or whatever it is called would still point to that instance/owner right? Or is there some kind of “DNS” or registry so you can move your handle to other instances?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by jrflowers » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:03 PM UTC

throwawat7832 wrote: post #58

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Why did you choose to use Imgur to share this image? You could have just as easily tweeted it and linked to it here

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by brigadier132 » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:04 PM UTC

This is why you always use exponential backoff.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by Shawnj2 » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:04 PM UTC

mod50ack wrote: post #90

pronik wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Early days of Twitter were just like that. Mastodon hasn't had the time to go to shit yet.

Well, it's a FOSS self-hostable server program. Mastodon isn't a service, so it's not susceptible to enshittification per se. A particular Mastodon host, sure. But Mastodon itself is just a codebase.

The biggest problem with Mastodon is that 3 instances comprise 50% of all traffic. That’s not that bad but that creates the conditions for the largest X instances to become Mastodon Inc., use VC money to fund advertising for their site and fund improvements the other instances don’t get, eventually defederate from the other instances, and finally enshittify. I think Mastodon is a bit more insulated from this than fully private companies, but it’s not invulnerable while that many users are on the biggest instances.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by sseagull » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:04 PM UTC

pronik wrote: post #80

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

Early days of Twitter were just like that. Mastodon hasn't had the time to go to shit yet.

In Twitter’s early days only one celebrity could tweet at a time

https://theoutline.com/post/4147/in-twitters-early-days-only...

HN discussion:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17147404

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by golergka » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:05 PM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #109

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

Can I read more about this? What topics are banned?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by ceejayoz » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:05 PM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #109

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

“On Mastodon” is like saying “in restaurants”. There’s a wide variety of instances to various tastes.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by Saris » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:05 PM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #109

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

You can hang out on an instance with like minded people, everyone else might defederate you but you'll have your space.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by paganel » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:06 PM UTC

quote wrote: post #23

One weekend Russia attacks Russia, next weekend Twitter attacks Twitter.

We're also during the France attacks France weekend, and Twitter self-immolating certainly doesn't help with staying in touch with things down there.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by hinkley » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:06 PM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #109

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

When someone says, "certain topics will get you banned" that doesn't make me judge the platform, that makes me judge the person.

People are going to assume it's something you don't want to name, if you won't name it.