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South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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As a Korean who being confused by the age counting existed too many at the same time, I am so proud of being together within the international standard. But we will still keep 1 indexed age when it comes to calculating the age of compulsory military service. Anyway I hope it triggers loosening too stubborn age counting hierarchy inside us.

So how old are you? Where did you study?

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

#112

As a Korean who being confused by the age counting existed too many at the same time, I am so proud of being together within the international standard. But we will still keep 1 indexed age when it comes to calculating the age of compulsory military service. Anyway I hope it triggers loosening too stubborn age counting hierarchy inside us.

So how old are you? Where did you study?

I will become 30 this December again (which sounds a bit sad to me). I could not get the point by where did I study.

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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In practice, you normally don't know the exact date of conception, you can only roughly estimate, but any estimate is likely to be a few days out. There are exceptions – e.g. IVF, or the parents know they only did it once and remember the exact date they did it on (but their memories may be fallible, etc). Birth is better because (in developed countries where babies are normally born in hospital) the bureaucracy almo…

Conception as a result of sex can take place up to one week after the act, even if it only happened once.

A error margin of +/- 7 days still beats a error of 9 months.

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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Hold up... I don't mean to be critical of another countrys traditions and ways of counting, but WAT!. If you're born on say December 31st, then the very next day you're considered to be two years old? I can't imaging that it's particular practical to think of some one who has only been alive for a few days as being two years old. It's not even useful if you think of it as the child being "in their second year". Techn…

Their concept of a "two year old" is completely different from our concept. So though the words may translate the same, it's just a different definition. For them, it's equally weird to think that a child would go through a year of life being "0 years old."

"0 years old" does seem weird... some part of that is probably because we seem to refer to children in their first year of life as "X months old".

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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Yes. I have a sister 15 years younger. My parents still keep her ultrasound plates around. Her ID states she is from this millennium. But yet the timestamps in the plates show she was already here with us in the end of the past millennium. Every time I see them, it gives me an uneasy feeling the way we're used to count our time is just wrong.

But we call it a birth day.

Not everywhere. In portuguese, for example, is called Aniversário. With roots from latin annus(year) + vertere (to come back), meaning what comes back every year. There's no reference to the specific event of being born. Only that it's something that happens every year.

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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We can include a year called 0 in the first century, no problem. All we have to do to get a year 0 is decide that there was one.

For that matter let’s get rid of the asinine BC system and just use negative years AD. The thing that gets me is that when they invented the CE notation, they went to the trouble of inventing a “BCE” notation for BC. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory! Also while we are fixing broken modular arithmetic, let’s add a proper modulo division operator to all the languages that got % wrong :)

What you want is called "astronomical year numbering" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering), so you have 1 BC = 0, 2 BC = -1, and so on. Astronomers are about the only people who would need to do math on negative years.

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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Yet another battle won in the 0 indexing vs. 1 indexing war

I prefer calling it "floor-index" vs "ceil-index" rather than 0/1 or offset/count based

Both 0 and 1 indexing aim to answer the question: "what is the index of the 1st element?"

floor(1) = 1 and ceil(1) = 1 so I'm not sure how your names apply.

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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America is a free country. If you want to use metric units there, go for it. Most packaging and standards already reflect metric. But many don't, and many people may be confused. Be the change you want.

> America is a free country. If you want to use metric units there, go for it. Most packaging and standards already reflect metric. Under 16 CFR § 500.8, metric-only labelling is illegal in the US for many categories of consumer products. Does any other country make metric-only labelling illegal? https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/16/500.8

I think it's illegal for a few very niche items in the UK. Specifically:

1. beer and cider (not e.g. wine, spirits or non-alcoholic beverages) must be sold by the pint, half pint, or third of a pint (strong beers and at tasting festivals mostly) when delivered "draught" ie they pump it into a glass, rather than handing you a can or bottle.

2. milk can be sold by the pint in re-usable containers (typically glass bottles for the purpose). I'm not sure this is actually mandated by law, but since it depends on the containers even if it wasn't you can't easily switch.

3. precious metals like gold, silver and platinum, are sold by the troy ounce.

The Brexiteers would probably like to push harder on this, but they're old and their "brave" economic experiment is a colossal failure, so "Let's make things worse" went off the agenda pretty firmly, now it's all about rescuing some sort of dignity from the mess.

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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The birth is clear and defined day. Trying to guess when the fetus was conceived would be ridiculous.

Yeah, and why stop there - you need to combine dates of sperm creation and egg creation, in the end fertilized egg is just a result of those 2 combining. Since eggs are created somewhere around development of the fetus IIRC, welcome to madness

> egg creation

yeah.. everyone gets an extra ~30 years of "age"

Re: South Korea adopts new law to join the international standard of age counting

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post #110

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I prefer calling it "floor-index" vs "ceil-index" rather than 0/1 or offset/count based

Both 0 and 1 indexing aim to answer the question: "what is the index of the 1st element?" floor(1) = 1 and ceil(1) = 1 so I'm not sure how your names apply.

floor and ceil ideas apply to age and calendar years nicely because the underlying value, time, is on the real number line.
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