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Post by verall »

scarface_74 wrote: post #58
wpwpwpw wrote: post #4

Great that in some months there will be a high-end laptop that you don't have to throw in the garbage bin once a ram chip fries. High expectations.

My definition of “high end” in 2023 is a battery that last 14+ hours of general use, doesn’t sound like a 747 when I open two Chrome tabs side by side and won’t fry my nuts when I put it on my lap.

If that is your definition then a Framework 13 is probably not the laptop for you.

It does fit my needs perfectly though - a usually on desktop but portable for travel notebook PC with 64G ram and 2TB ssd for under $1200. Very cheap compared to other laptops with the same specs and I really like it.

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Post by verall »

CarVac wrote: post #50
wpwpwpw wrote: post #4

Great that in some months there will be a high-end laptop that you don't have to throw in the garbage bin once a ram chip fries. High expectations.

My girlfriend has had a $3000 gaming laptop die twice. Feels really bad to own e-waste.

I have seen this happen to many friends, older gaming laptops either dying or running much slower than expected while my desktop just chugs along.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Enclosure

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Post by 111111IIIIIII »

verall wrote: post #111
scarface_74 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My definition of “high end” in 2023 is a battery that last 14+ hours of general use, doesn’t sound like a 747 when I open two Chrome tabs side by side and won’t fry my nuts when I put it on my lap.

If that is your definition then a Framework 13 is probably not the laptop for you. It does fit my needs perfectly though - a usually on desktop but portable for travel notebook PC with 64G ram and 2TB ssd for under $1200. Very cheap compared to other laptops with the same specs and I really like it.

Oh my god. How and why is it so affordable? Knowing that, I hope they offer a higher resolution screen someday.

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Post by Modified3019 »

d0100 wrote: post #109

Is there any possibility of having another style of keyboard? I'm still looking for a notebook without a chicklet keyboard

It would be a dream if there was a chassis surface plate and wiring bits for the framework that could allow for popping in a MP-08G33US-387C9-89US keyboard (see: https://laptopkey.com/lenovo-thinkpad-w520-laptop-keyboard-k...)

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Post by lockhouse »

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #108
scarface_74 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate to be that guy. But why do you want a laptop for that? While my above list of requirements is basically implying a MacBook, if I wanted a really performant computer with a good GPU either internal or external for a high end use case, I would get a non-Mac desktop.

Why own a macbook when you could just have a non-Mac desktop instead?

Maybe they prefer macOS or need it for iOS development.

Also, there really isn't anything out there like a MacBook Air. Thin, light, fast, fanless (silent), and truly all day battery life.

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Post by _2z1p »

verall wrote: post #112
CarVac wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My girlfriend has had a $3000 gaming laptop die twice. Feels really bad to own e-waste.

I have seen this happen to many friends, older gaming laptops either dying or running much slower than expected while my desktop just chugs along.

Gaming laptops are particularly prone to this because of all the heat they generate. Desktops have much better mechanisms for dealing with heat.

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Post by scarface_74 »

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #108
scarface_74 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate to be that guy. But why do you want a laptop for that? While my above list of requirements is basically implying a MacBook, if I wanted a really performant computer with a good GPU either internal or external for a high end use case, I would get a non-Mac desktop.

Why own a macbook when you could just have a non-Mac desktop instead?

Because a desktop isn’t portable?

When I go into either one of my corporate offices (rarely) or a client’s office, it’s nice to be able to just plug my laptop in the night before and not have to worry about a finding any place to plug it in during the day, going back and forth between conference rooms, etc.

I also go home to see my parents for a couple of weeks sometimes and work from there.

And I realize this is a very esoteric case. But I also do the whole “digital nomad” thing half the year.

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Post by xarope »

DreamFlasher wrote: post #93
scarface_74 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My definition of “high end” in 2023 is a battery that last 14+ hours of general use, doesn’t sound like a 747 when I open two Chrome tabs side by side and won’t fry my nuts when I put it on my lap.

Fullack. Returned my framework laptop because of 3 hours battery life (streaming Netflix, measured multiple times), the 747 sound (customer support told me "works as expected"), and if I want to fry eggs I have other devices for that. I'd say "there's room for improvement".

I think that's a consequence of the gen 11/12 Intel chips used? I think the AMD versions would be much cooler and have better battery life (or so I hope!)

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Post by sphars »

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #105
hellcow wrote: post #5

This case looks great. Love that we have replaceable graphics on this one. I’m most excited for the ortholinear keyboard attachment. That makes it a must-buy for me, since after switching to a Kinesis Advantage I just can’t type on a staggered layout anymore.

Is this real? I've gone without a laptop for 6 months now due to RSI. If this is real, I might actually cry.

Closest I've been able to find is this note from the founder: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35280168

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