All burned out? Just wait.... Until you've been through another 30 years. You haven't even reached mid-burn yet...
"Things were hard for me, there's no way they're harder or even as hard for you!"
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The hustle never ends and I'm so over it
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Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is the existence of that team member a problem? You don't have to read the emails until the start of the workday no matter when they send them.
Because their “endeavor” becomes the benchmark for other employees to replicate, leading to a race to the bottom.
I guess that I'm weird. It never occurred to me to measure my performance in contrast to my coworkers!
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I left silicon valley because of agile development. Sprinting all the time was the thing that lead to my burnout... Hard work doesn't cause burnout. Constantly feeling like you have no control or impact causes burnout.
I don't think you can really have a generic "this is why you're burnt out" or "that's not real burn out => look over here!". There could be many reasons why someone is in a burnt out state - from lack of control, to being over-worked, being constantly over stimulated, emotional trauma or any number of other reasons. It's something unique to the individual and is not always obvious.
I think they’re pointing out that if you feel like what you’re doing really matters then burn out doesn’t happen. Assuming there aren’t factors outside work.
I strongly believe burnout is a for of depression.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
This in and of itself is the problem When every system is *critical system for somebody* and the downtime means loss of capacity, then people are actually hurt, and there are real problems when these things do go down. So you become numb, like a triage nurse, to real suffering because you’re in a system that doesn’t actually give people the resources to fix these things. Most of the harms in the world are when large…
Have you ever read The Machine Stops? You might find it enjoyable. https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/th...
Not the parent, but thank you for the recommendation. It’s a great read.
Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it
#115There's always someone trying to light a fire under your ass. Fear politics is how we got a police force at war with citizens due to moral panics. Would be authoritarians thrive on that shit. Salespeople want you to panic and close to escape the danger. Leadership wants you to exhaust yourself for their cause.
The real trick is realizing that's bullshit 99% of the time. Special forces train you to take control of your fight or flight reflex. You need to decide when to unleash the adrenaline. If you lose that control, you're in the whirlwind... Being grounded and tuning out the noise so you can navigate properly is a fundamental life skill.
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This was an eye opening moment when it happened to me. Almost nothing has the impact it purports to have. Percentage-wise, very few things are the emergency/fire that people make them out to be, at least in the grand scheme of things. I think part of it is that people get too wrapped up in their local world and don't see the big picture. For instance "If we don't get this widget added to the thingamabob in the next 3…
All burned out? Just wait.... Until you've been through another 30 years. You haven't even reached mid-burn yet...
This isn't burnout, this kept me from burning out. I was wound up pretty tight and now am more sanguine about work things in general.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I worked at FB, I felt like I was treated most like a human vs. a work robot at other jobs. Experience is dependent on which org you join, and the hedonic treadmill will always exist in capitalism.. but these articles on their posters are silly.
> hedonic treadmill will always exist in capitalism It beats "they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work".
If you believe soviet style communist dictatorship is the only alternative to the current state of capitalistic exploitation in the West, propaganda already defeated you as a force for change.
Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it
#118Why are we sprinting? To win. The business world is Darwinian. Sit back and relax, and someone else who is more motivated will eat your lunch. Why do we want to win? To make money so we can have what we want. If you don't feel like you're getting somewhere, maybe you're applying force to the ground in the wrong way.
> The business world is Darwinian.
Then look at apex predators. They spend most of their time resting. Their efforts in hunting are extremely focused. Lions are not 'griding' yet they dominate the savannah.
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#119I left silicon valley because of agile development. Sprinting all the time was the thing that lead to my burnout, and when we finally released our app, the company was pivoting and 'going epic mode'. I quit then. In retrospect it would've been fine if I had taken a more relaxed attitude towards it all. Sprints don't mean you have to literally sprint. Epic mode is just a narrative. Work at your pace and it'll be fine.
>I left silicon valley because of agile development. Sprinting all the time was the thing that lead to my burnout... Hard work doesn't cause burnout. Constantly feeling like you have no control or impact causes burnout.
Overwork causes burnout.
Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> hedonic treadmill will always exist in capitalism It beats "they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work".
If you believe soviet style communist dictatorship is the only alternative to the current state of capitalistic exploitation in the West, propaganda already defeated you as a force for change.
Please stop talking like this. You're not in a crusade against a monolithic force. You're raging against a billion individuals playing, generally speaking, within the rules that governments set for them.