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Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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post #109

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6661436B2/en Method for providing window snap control for a split screen computer program GUI https://patents.justia.com/patent/6661436 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250201392 https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/07/gnome-shell-quarter-tili...

Another reason for "patents are awful"

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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What about that interminable animation every time you fullscreen a window or switch between fullscreen windows? It should be at least twice as fast and there's not even any way to hack it to speed it up. You just have to live with it. ("reduce motion" changes it to a crossfade but doesn't make it faster) While we're at it, the Dock has always been bad. And the top menu bar was good for the original Macintosh with a t…

I still have to meet anybody that is not at a minimum annoyed by the macos animations. I literally stopped using the spaces feature because of that!. The default animation got me dizzy all the time, but even with that one disabled via accessibility settings they keep a terribly slow fading animation. It's absolutely ridiculous for a professional machine to impose these things on you.

The Time Machine one is amazing. I go there by accident sometimes, usually when trying to work out why it isn’t working (this is a whole other issue) and it’s ludicrous.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

#113
post #30

What about that interminable animation every time you fullscreen a window or switch between fullscreen windows? It should be at least twice as fast and there's not even any way to hack it to speed it up. You just have to live with it. ("reduce motion" changes it to a crossfade but doesn't make it faster) While we're at it, the Dock has always been bad. And the top menu bar was good for the original Macintosh with a t…

I still have to meet anybody that is not at a minimum annoyed by the macos animations. I literally stopped using the spaces feature because of that!. The default animation got me dizzy all the time, but even with that one disabled via accessibility settings they keep a terribly slow fading animation. It's absolutely ridiculous for a professional machine to impose these things on you.

I'm absolutely fine with them. I use Spaces all the time - mostly by hitting f3 and clicking on the screen thumbnail at the top, rather than control-arrowing or control-number.

HN has a lot of hate for these animations but I don't think I've ever seen anyone bitching about them elsewhere.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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I don’t understand. I wouldn’t consider snapping a first class feature like closing, maximizing, and minimizing. It’s possible that the addition of snapping would confuse some uninitiated users. They wouldn’t understand why the windows lock toward the side of the screen when they drag. The only beef I have with apples windowing system is you can’t remove the finder from alt-tab. There are apps like witch but it is cu…

I'm agreeing but it's because I find features like window snapping, auto-reveal desktop, and AERO SHAKE (where all the windows except the one you're shaking get minimized) REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.

Windows 11 maximized the annoying desire to do things for me by bringing up this stupid rectangle at the top of my screen any time I move a window, trying to get me to snap it to a side of the screen...

It's like MS hired someone who uses those obnoxious Linux tiling WMs that don't let you do anything except tiling, and that person is trying to force tiling on everyone.

Thing is, damnit, I like overlapping windows!

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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What is "window snapping"?

It is hard for me to imagine what you could mean by "nonexistent window managing system". Obviously Mac OS has a window management system.

People have widely varying preferences when it comes to such things. You seem to be thinking of yours as though they are somehow objective and external to you.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

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I think with macOS’s design of the dock (resizable, unlike on Windows where the task bar always takes up the whole monitor width,) having one or more windows “full screen” on your desktop feels wrong. There is always some some space left unoccupied to the side of the dock. Apple has a solution for this which is the green dot that puts your app in a separate space to be truly full screen, and you can split screen betw…

If you hide the dock it works fine to fill the screen without hitting the "full screen" button, unless there is some control at the absolute bottom of the window that you regularly need to access. Putting the dock on the side has always been an option; I've had it autohiding on the right since not long after trying 10.0.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

#117
post #109

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6661436B2/en Method for providing window snap control for a split screen computer program GUI https://patents.justia.com/patent/6661436 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250201392 https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/07/gnome-shell-quarter-tili...

Patents can be licensed.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

#118

Seems like you assume everyone likes window snapping because you do. It’s one of the most annoying aspects of using Windows for me.

Huh? What's annoying about something completely optional? If you don't like window snapping, just.... don't?

Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?

#119
Some form of ‘snap’ is being rolled out with Stage Manager on the iPad, which has very strong window rails, and the latest update improves their granularity. macOS has very few snap rails relative to the iPad, and only very limited close-range springs when in proximity to other windows. Perhaps that’ll change, or perhaps not, in the future. So, Apple’s definitely not ignoring snapping — they’re just doing it in ways that don’t currently meet your needs.
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