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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by ipaddr »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #67
ramesh31 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The power-tripping is payment in itself for those types. As if the current mods are any different? Honestly I don't mind this at all. The big subreddits have become so ossified in their power structures, that each community is its' own little fiefdom now. There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation, and some kind of site…

>There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation Whenever I see this sentiment I'm honestly stumped as to how anyone's experience can be so different from mine. What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly al…

Different subs have different rules and different formats on what they expect. Casually posting as you would in one thread might get you banned in another.

Here is a good example. As a new user signed up for an account and posted in a sub got a lot of replies but didn't come back for a few months. Tried replying and was forbidden because of low karma points. Never came back..

The reason why you as a long term reddit user are stumped is because your experience is different.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by Ekaros »

arecurrence wrote: post #97

In my experience, whenever volunteer mod positions open, there is a near infinite supply of people that want those roles. For whatever reasons, people want it and those that have it typically seek to hold onto it. It's borderline inexplicable to me. How could someone want this in the first place and how could they be willing to do it in a volunteer capacity?

Some section of population is attracted to power. And just about any type of power. Even if that was 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 it would still be substantial number in large enough communities. And if it were lets say 1 in 10k those same people would still search for all the places they could have power in.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by ttctciyf »

It is quite impressive to see the detailed intimate knowledge of the personality and inner landscape of reddit moderators shown by commenters in this thread.

Clearly the moderators have many psychological characteristics in common and are motivated by the exact same personality flaws and doubtless it is because of this that the commenters here are able to achieve such startling generality in their succinct evaluations!

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by RistrettoMike »

ctoth wrote: post #86

Calling it now. Reddit will supply the firehose of data to OpenAI in return for AI moderators. Boom. Human problems solved.

I’d love to see how OpenAI’s overbuilt autocorrect would serve as a moderator in practice. Delightful chaos.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by rpearl »

ahepp wrote: post #66
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

If mods on Reddit really believed they were irreplaceable, wouldn’t it make more sense to protest by quitting?

But that's not why the protest is happening...?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by spicymapotofu »

ahahahahah wrote: post #87
Maxion wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? All subreddits that have ran votes, the community has been in majority favor of closing.

That is (1) not true and (2) meaningless given most of those polls were brigaded by a small set of vocal whiny users voting in subreddits they aren't even involved in (3) even given both if those, I doubt you can find a poll for a large subreddit that shows even 10% of users supporting a blackout.

So, can you show how most polls were brigaded?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by ramesh31 »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #67
ramesh31 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The power-tripping is payment in itself for those types. As if the current mods are any different? Honestly I don't mind this at all. The big subreddits have become so ossified in their power structures, that each community is its' own little fiefdom now. There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation, and some kind of site…

>There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation Whenever I see this sentiment I'm honestly stumped as to how anyone's experience can be so different from mine. What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly al…

>What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly all of them get stuffed with off-topic and low-effort content, often actively breaking the community rules in the sidebar.

That's the problem, it can be anything. No, I'm not going to sit down and read every single bullet point of your specific subreddit rules so that what I'm saying perfectly jives with your little cult. I don't know how many times I've seen an interesting thread from a sub I've never visited, tried to add to the conversation, and got auto-moderated with zero recourse. No, I'm not going to "revise my post" to step in line with what you're expecting. I'm just never going to bother joining this community now.

So long as a post is on topic and not abusive or threatening, there is zero reason to remove it. But Reddit has become a place where mods curate their userbase into a nightmarish echo chamber, quash all dissent, and then use it as a bullhorn for their own ideologies.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by notyourwork »

mrtranscendence wrote: post #69
mattmaroon wrote: post #42

I don’t blame them. Reddit owns the subreddits, not redditors. I have no idea why someone would put the time required into moderating a large sub for no money just for Reddit’s benefit in the first place. A Reddit model where the mods share in profits (kind of how YouTube creators do) would be interesting. But if you’re going to sign up for that, you can’t expect Reddit to just let you tank their site. It was never y…

There are distinct questions here: whether Reddit has the right to forcibly reopen subreddits, whether it’s justified in doing so, and whether it’s a good idea at all. The first isn’t in dispute, but the other two are open for debate. It could all go super well and everyone forgets about this shakeup, or it could engender further animosity and chase people (particularly trend-setting power users) to some other platfo…

> whether Reddit has the right to forcibly reopen subreddits

Reddit owns Reddit, no? They have the right to do whatever they want with their website.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by bombcar »

zzzeek wrote: post #83
civilitty wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finally, I can fulfill my destiny of taking over r/television and banning anyone who says anything positive about a show with a laugh track. It should never have been allowed to begin with.

same, but for r/music for praising songs that have fade out endings

And CDs where the track actually starts five seconds into the previous track and it’s never been fixed in any digital version ever.
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