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Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by bbor »

Exuma wrote: post #56
iameli wrote: post #19

The biggest Reddit communities are in open rebellion. Twitter is, charitably, a mess. Twitch started taking a full 50% of the revenue of their top creators, who are furious. What's going on? What's the bigger trend that's causing all these platforms to go so user-hostile?

This is a very stupid question - but can someone explain what the "interest rates" and "no more free money" replies mean? Is it because reddit isn't profitable so relies on constant money supply from investors? Or is it something else

> Is it because reddit isn't profitable so relies on constant money supply from investors?

A lot of replies to say "yes" lol

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by riku_iki »

emptyfile wrote: post #38
rblatz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also most people don’t really care about the API/3rd party app thing. It doesn’t impact them and it looks from the outside like a bunch of dorks with no lives getting worked up over nothing. I’ve been on Reddit since the digg migration and I’ve never felt the need for an app, old.reddit.com and Adblock works perfectly fine on the phone. Better than Reddit’s mobile site.

Yeah that's the whole reason why subs are shutting down. Because the mods care, even if their users don't.

but users are main contributors of content. Should they be asked at least?

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by floren »

Simulacra wrote: post #39
pgrote wrote: post #34

When do replacement subreddits start forming? /r/picsnew or something.

They already have, people who don't care about the API issue were creating their own "unlocked" subreddits of popular Reddit's that have gone dark

Once enough of those get created, it would probably be more harmful to Reddit if the mods then opened up their original subreddits. Now users have to pick between /r/foo and /r/foo_unlocked. Communities are fragmented.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by Exuma »

iaw wrote: post #91
Exuma wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very stupid question - but can someone explain what the "interest rates" and "no more free money" replies mean? Is it because reddit isn't profitable so relies on constant money supply from investors? Or is it something else

I'll try to be quick and simple: - The US government sets a base interest rate it will pay if you buy bonds from them - Bonds are basically loans - People with money want that money to make money so they buy bonds and invest in stocks/companies - When bonds aren't giving any money rich people put more into companies - When bonds are giving money rich people shift money into bonds, less money for companies This is a g…

Ahh, thank you. That helps a lot. I suppose it's interesting that the return from companies is even remotely comparable to the return from bonds. That's probably a dumb realization but I don't know much about this stuff.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by PKop »

chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

How do these independent servers cover the costs of "success", if more users join it's more cost, more moderation hassle. Who pays for it?

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by soundsgoodtome »

jurassicfoxy wrote: post #69
chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

Yes, I just saw the r/StarTrek migration, and visited Lemmy for the 3rd time or so this week, and quite frankly, I could drop reddit entirely now, if I knew how to find communities. I feel some real hacker/dev excitement for the future of Lemmy.

Let us know if/when you figure out how to find communities. Discoverability seems to be a real problem with Lemmy.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by gman83 »

jurassicfoxy wrote: post #69
chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

Yes, I just saw the r/StarTrek migration, and visited Lemmy for the 3rd time or so this week, and quite frankly, I could drop reddit entirely now, if I knew how to find communities. I feel some real hacker/dev excitement for the future of Lemmy.

On the communities page of your instance, select "All" instead of "Local" to search for communities on all servers, for example: https://lemmy.world/communities/listing_type/All/page/1

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by bbor »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #76
quaintdev wrote: post #40

Reddit has become pretty popular in India and this new population is okay with new site and policy changes because they simply are not aware of what Reddit use to be. Reddit blackout has almost 0 effect on Indian subreddits. Reddit still has numbers to show even if most subreddit are down. Just check r/India r/Mumbai r/Banglore r/Delhi r/Pune and other India subreddits and you will see.

I’m sure that fact will really pump up demand for their IPO.

Is this sarcastic or am I missing some point? More users == more money, and India is the biggest under-tapped single market in social media, if you consider it a "single market". I don't get why being popular in India would be a bad thing...

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Maxburn wrote: post #78
idiotsecant wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think many moderators will actually quit as long as the users are there, especially since reddit gave back some moderator API call access. Moderating is already a terrible, thankless job. The people who do it enjoy moderating because (I assume) they're 'in charge' of something big and important. I don't think reddit closing off third party access will be enough to convince most of these people to stop giving…

This is the thing I don't get, reddit is getting a heck of a free ride with all these mods. You'd think they would do everything within their power to enable them so why kick them in the nuts? Also the "power" users would probably be happy to pay reasonable prices to interact with it via app/api, so go ahead and charge something REASONABLE. There's something nefarious going on behind the scenes and it's all very susp…

Indeed. I'd happily pay Reddit directly for an API key if that let me run RIF in a "bring your own key" mode. They could split the profits between themselves and app dev. I'm surprised no one is proposing this. But I guess this comes down to people willing and able to pay to avoid adtech cancer being actually the most profitable cohort for the advertisers...

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by sempron64 »

PKop wrote: post #115
chongli wrote: post #37

I was really skeptical of lemmy [1] when I first heard about it during the blackout. I joined yesterday and it completely changed my mind. Yes, it is going to face some growing pains (see the total user growth in the past few days) [2] in the coming weeks and months but it really has the potential to replace Reddit with a federated system of communities. One that won't be damaged by investors or executives attempting…

How do these independent servers cover the costs of "success", if more users join it's more cost, more moderation hassle. Who pays for it?

Who pays the moderators of all the major subreddits?
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