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Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by elnr »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #11
Dudester230602 wrote: post #4

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If your store is big you can sabotage your providers: Apple to Facebook. If your store is small your providers can sabotage you: Google to Microsoft (Windows Phone). I wonder whom will Apple be begging for more content for their Vision - perhaps Valve? Big respect to Apple though for inadvertently protecting their customers from web "apps". But times will change...

From the latest WWDC (2023) Apple has actually encouraging web app support. In Safari Version 17: Added support for web apps on macOS Sonoma. Add any website to the Dock from the File menu or Share Sheet to get to them even faster. Web apps open in their own window, and integrate with system features like Stage Manager, Screen Time, Notifications, and Focus. (68606770) [1] [1] https://developer.apple.com/documentatio…

I mean, "web apps" are just PWAs which iOS, Android(?), and Chrome have all supported for a while now. Still, it's nice to see a better push for web, and it's a bit of a reversal to Apple's historic position on apps (Steve Jobs opposed creating an app store, preferring web apps).

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by i386 »

cdibona wrote: post #69
B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #22

I rabbit-holed to the 2005 "irate call" from Steve Jobs: https://www.techemails.com/p/sergey-brin-irate-call-from-ste... Does anyone know who was the REDACTED browser expert being recruited by Google?

Yea, but,not gonna share. What I told Sergey was to tell Steve 'you can't take a person away from a job they love'

I’m betting it was none only but Ben Goodger. There’s no way you guys would have been coping that hard about it otherwise.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by detourdog »

rblatz wrote: post #37
hgsgm wrote: post #28

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Encrypt the email, rotate and delete keys after 18months.

Or just set a company policy around email retention. Then delete anything older than that? Apple chose to keep these emails around because the value of the emails was greater than the risk of keeping them.

Apple is secretive not sneaky they aren’t trying to trick anybody. They are working on human centric computing. They have had human interface guidelines and the preservation of those guidelines is maintained through app review.

I’m sure that some form of side loading will appear soon. My guess is that all the privacy and integration will be held at arms length from the rest of the ecosystem and may just use webkit to access the user data.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by Huggernaut »

i386 wrote: post #112
cdibona wrote: post #69

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Yea, but,not gonna share. What I told Sergey was to tell Steve 'you can't take a person away from a job they love'

I’m betting it was none only but Ben Goodger. There’s no way you guys would have been coping that hard about it otherwise.

Article says the referral of [REDACTED] was made by Ben Goodger.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by detourdog »

DrBenCarson wrote: post #45
hgsgm wrote: post #34

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Charging 30% doesn't enhance security.

I’ll let the Google Play Store know.

Definitely let them know. Then they can make their store successful enough so that the android developers stop trying to make iOS android.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by detourdog »

shmerl wrote: post #61
kitsunesoba wrote: post #48

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To be fair, the amount of effort that Apple puts into their APIs is well above the industry standard. Cocoa and Cocoa Touch stand with few peers when it comes to depth, breadth, and quality which has been a big factor in the success of their platforms. They’re some of the few SDKs where if you want to, you can produce a top tier app without importing a single third party library, which is no small feat. In their shoe…

That's never really an excuse for lock-in. If they are so superior, they wouldn't need to worry about developers not using them, right? Using tools as a way to control developers is just disgusting.

This is an argument to trust developers and business school grads as opposed to a company that I have a 40+ relationship with. If you want developer freedom choose a different platform. Apple is for users and not developers. We all have the freedom to do whatever we want. Why some people choose to constantly rail against a company they think is ridiculous os mystifying. Move on bless some other platform with your gifts.

One should develop for a platform they enjoy.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by ranting-moth »

htk wrote: post #12

This might not be a popular view here, but I'm surprised how professional they are in these exchanges. I would expect a much more visceral discussion on how the other party is trying to bypass paying them, how they can get more money the other way, etc.

Have you seen mafia style organized crime? It's very professional.

Even when people are being threatened bodily harm, it comes across as polite but direct communication.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Post by euroderf »

ranting-moth wrote: post #119
htk wrote: post #12

This might not be a popular view here, but I'm surprised how professional they are in these exchanges. I would expect a much more visceral discussion on how the other party is trying to bypass paying them, how they can get more money the other way, etc.

Have you seen mafia style organized crime? It's very professional. Even when people are being threatened bodily harm, it comes across as polite but direct communication.

Offers made in the businesslike spirit of unrefusability.
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