Please change title to Apollo Backend. Gives the impression Apollo has returned “and” made public.
Apollo Back end just made public
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#112What if all the blackout communities move to an open source, community funded, community owned and run version of Apollo? I’d be happy to try and convince my 100k community to Apollo and if the UX is similar for web and mobile then I’m not sure switching costs would be that high during the blackout. I’d help fund it but all my money is wrapped up in my trash cooperative.
I haven’t seen a compelling OS alternative to Reddit yet. The ones I’ve seen have all either been big on decentralization at the expense of long load times and a lot of UI complexity, or big on 4chan-style dialogue with little moderation. Neither of those sounds like a great migration path. IMO this is the same problem “migrate off Twitter” efforts had.
The effort I've seen pointed to a "recommended lemmy instances" page which had a wide range of things from the anodyne to the horrific.
I can't think of much else that could have done a better job at putting me off from ever touching Lemmy than some of the descriptions of federations it "recommended".
Also, by being open about how many people were federating in each community, it also made it clear that even the biggest server was smaller than most discords.
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#113Dumb question: why does Apollo need their own backend API when isn’t Apollo just a different view/UX for Reddits own API? https://github.com/christianselig/apollo-backend
All the comments in this thread are right. This specific scenario was about providing a consistent experience. All the work that this backend does could be done using iOS’ background updates, but:
1. Those aren’t consistently scheduled 2. They have an extremely tight deadline (and sometimes Reddit can be a bit slow)
Making it server side means we controlled that experience better.
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#114What if all the blackout communities move to an open source, community funded, community owned and run version of Apollo? I’d be happy to try and convince my 100k community to Apollo and if the UX is similar for web and mobile then I’m not sure switching costs would be that high during the blackout. I’d help fund it but all my money is wrapped up in my trash cooperative.
Apollo isn’t a Reddit competitor, you’d have to build out the whole Reddit backend for it to talk to. Christian understandably said he’s not interested in working on that himself. If he open sourced the client and it could be forked to work with a Reddit competitor that’d be amazing, but I’m not sure if he plans to open source that.
Fair, however I think if we just assume that the community is what is important then we can bootstrap into a new "clean" architecture - but that's going to take leadership and someone with cash to spin everything up over the weekend basically.
I think it's doable, but we need a leader to step up.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Running a social media site and handling all the moderation and other legal issues seems like * a giant headache * a totally different skill set from building an app Anyway the code is o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶s̶o̶u̶r̶c̶e̶ probably going to be open source soon and his company is probably not going to keep working on it now that Reddit has basically wiped out their business model, so we may as well ask why don’t you or I fork the co…
It's not open source yet, it has no license. Upthread the author says they're going to go check with the app dev and decide what they want to do license-wise: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36256596
Good point.
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#116Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…
I’m a long time paid customer of apollo. I have only used Reddit because apollo exists. What an amazing app. Thank you for all the hard work.
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#117There's a Reddit CEO AMA later today: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce... Can't see it being anything other than a PR disaster for them, unless they change their stance.
I don't think there's anything Reddit could do at this point to not let it be a PR disaster. That includes changing their stance. What they're doing is so egregious, naming and shaming and lying about people who brought immense value to the community for years. All out of misguided greed.
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#118Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…
So, too much work to adapt it to hackernews? Would love to have a decent client for this site…
HN is a whole other beast. A notification server would have to keep track of any replies to any of your comments / submissions in order to determine what to notify you about, purely because they don’t have a notification model.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter stats show great growth in musk related topics (space, EV's, etc), but a decline in the amount of content posted in nearly all other areas.
Where are you seeing these stats?
Here, for example: https://twitter.com/stats_feed/status/1666446359619153920
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#120There's a Reddit CEO AMA later today: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce... Can't see it being anything other than a PR disaster for them, unless they change their stance.
For some companies, for example Ticketmaster, PR disasters are fine. They don't affect the profitability of the company, nor the user base.
The risk though for PR disasters for companies like Ticketmaster is when they get the attention of regulators. Then it becomes an issue for them.