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Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Can someone please record a video of using this app? I'd love to have a record of what we are losing.

I would if it wasnt only available on iPhone

Oh! I was wondering how I never even heard of Apollo until this debacle. It being only for lockdown platforms explains.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#114
post #66

I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…

What kind of obligation is Reddit under to allow Apollo to continue? They’ve made a decision they think (rightly or wrongly) is in the long-term interests of the company. How long will Reddit survive if they don’t do this? I have no idea. But I do know the CEO has to deliver more than happy users.

They're not under any obligation legally - but they've been intentionally misleading at every step to try to make Apollo the bad guy

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…

>yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit

This is *literally* what is expected of someone running a company with intitutional investors - anything other than this and investors are not interested.

What more proof do we need that there is nothing more important to a small group of humans that own all the money, than them getting more money?

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#116
post #70

I don't have any dogs in this race, but Apollo should be careful about recording calls. Just because he is in a one-party location doesn't mean he hasn't violated the law wherever the other party is if they are in a two-party location and he didn't have consent from the other party.

Just in case anyone sees this and takes it seriously: this is absolutely not now that works.

And even if it did in the US, I don't think anyone here is an expert on how phone consent laws work cross-country.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#117

I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…

> I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this.

What is the employee culture like it Reddit?

I’ve never gotten the impression that people working at Reddit better care all that much about the community. It’s just not something that ever came across from the site… rather, I’ve suspected just the opposite.

Statements by some admin’s make me wonder if they’ve EVER dealt with a community before … and their decisions based on personal relationships, rather than anything else.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#119
Well done to Christian for remaining calm, professional, and engaging with this process in an honest way, standing up for his users, but not attacking Reddit or its staff with emotion, just stating facts and holding them to account in a considered way. He comes across as a mature individual and one that I'm sure many would want to deal with in business or hire as an engineer or leader.

In a way, Reddit couldn't have asked for a worse outcome, they have come out looking terrible and he has come out looking great and defining the community discussion.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#120
post #66

I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…

What kind of obligation is Reddit under to allow Apollo to continue? They’ve made a decision they think (rightly or wrongly) is in the long-term interests of the company. How long will Reddit survive if they don’t do this? I have no idea. But I do know the CEO has to deliver more than happy users.

Yes, but he also should listen to Ru Paul and not duck it up. Or maybe not digg it.
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