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Post by kayodelycaon »

engineer_22 wrote: post #2

TLDR; participants with cocaine history were administered caffeine IV. At high doses (300mg) they reported some mild euphoria, and a strange taste and/or smell. Ask HN: aside from caffeine, what is the drug of choice around here?

Personally, prescription medications are great: legal, consistent, safe, and effective.

Wellbutrin (NDRI) every morning. Helps with attention and alertness. It isn't classified as a stimulant, so I don't need to deal with the regulations around regular ADHD meds. It also helps with sexual dysfunction caused by other meds.

Benzos for social events. Way better than alcohol. All of the chill and none of the impairment. :)

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Post by waboremo »

ziml77 wrote: post #102
waboremo wrote: post #86

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I believe the common theory is not the coffee acidity on its own, but the habits around it. People often drink coffee slowly and without a straw, this leads to staining but not tooth decay. However the slow part contributes to the teeth not getting a chance to neutralize acidity normally. This gets worse when people then brush their teeth after their morning coffee to prevent bad breath, which the abrasiveness combin…

Interesting. For a few years I was extremely bad about brushing my teeth. I wonder if not doing that is why my consumption of coffee, carbonated drinks, and sugary snacks/desserts did nothing to the teeth themselves other than maybe a little extra staining. The first dentist visit I had after that stretch of 3 years required nothing but a cleaning! (Of course it's still bad to not brush consistently because the plaqu…

Similar situation, he was surprised by how white they were too. I drink almost everything that isn't water through a straw and never swish it around. He said that's probably why the only reason he had to do any work was due to the very back edge of my teeth where even when drinking through a straw the liquid touches.

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Post by kilroy123 »

ano-ther wrote: post #58

Didn’t realise caffeine was used IV in anesthesia. Apparently it speeds up awakening (which makes sense to me as a non-medic). https://theanesthesiaconsultant.com/2019/06/18/intravenous-c... But the story in OP is that the patient received caffeine IV at the beginning of the surgery (inducing severe anxiety). Does anyone know why you would do this?

I had caffeine in an IV before. I was going under for surgery, and the doctor asked are you a coffee drinker? I told him oh yes, I'm a huge coffee drinker.

When I woke up from the surgery, it was pretty weird. I was wide awake and alert very quickly. Never got a caffeine withdraw headache. It was awesome.

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Post by germinalphrase »

TurkishPoptart wrote: post #107
germinalphrase wrote: post #6

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A paramedic friend advised that if you ever end up in the hospital in a lot of pain, always opt for the suppository.

What's the reasoning? Instead of an IV? If I was in extreme pain, I would by default opt for an IV, which would be the fastest way to relieve it.

I guess I misspoke a bit in the original comment. Yea - in the hospital, they’ll just inject if possible; however, if a doctor is writing a prescription and you’re offered pills vs a suppository, take the suppository.

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Post by tasty_freeze »

zls wrote: post #47
tasty_freeze wrote: post #39

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THC containing gummies, once a week, for music enhancement before bed. Tangential details... The 2018 hemp farm bill allows products to have up to 0.3% THC, but it took years for people to realize that gummies are hefty enough that 0.3% means a gummy can have 10-20mg of THC. So, at the ripe age of 57 I finally tried THC. It was very frustrating because most of the good stuff I expected didn't happen: no euphoria, no…

I’m surprised you do it before bed! I find that especially with edibles, using thc too close to bed makes me sleep deeply but wake up groggy. Typically I need an afternoon nap the next day. I believe thc fucks with REM. Food is totally unchanged for you? Wild! What about movies/tv?

Yup, it isn't enhanced at all, and I don't get extra cravings.

Although I gone up to 25mg while I was experimenting to find a dose that works best for me, my target is 10mg. Maybe that isn't enough to trigger munchies.

Because the only thing I find it good for is music enhancement, I like to take a gummy around 9pm-10pm, then two hours later put on three albums with a particular kind of music, then hope that I get enhancement. If I'm feeling tired that day, though, I put it off because sucks to hit the sweet spot and then immediately fall asleep and not get to enjoy the music.

By enhancement, I mean I experience pronounced stereo separation and deeper notes seem to be very resonant. Sometimes I get little floaty and feel like I'm suspended in zero gravity while I drift to the music. Because I do it only once a week, I don't notice any disruption of my sleep.

EDIT: you asked about TV/movies. I don't watch them, so I don't know.

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Post by tasty_freeze »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #83
tasty_freeze wrote: post #39

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THC containing gummies, once a week, for music enhancement before bed. Tangential details... The 2018 hemp farm bill allows products to have up to 0.3% THC, but it took years for people to realize that gummies are hefty enough that 0.3% means a gummy can have 10-20mg of THC. So, at the ripe age of 57 I finally tried THC. It was very frustrating because most of the good stuff I expected didn't happen: no euphoria, no…

Is there anything other than THC in those gummies? Many of the effects might depend on non-THC cannabinoids. Also, for some reason, some effects happen upon smoking or vaping but not through edibles. There are various theories about why, but it's all very complicated.

Part of my experimentation was to try many different doses, just thc, thc + cbd in various ratios, ones claiming to have "live rosin" or whatnot.

I did finally try a real joint -- of course it hits much faster, but the lung irritation and health concerns weren't worth it.

I'm a bit jealous of people who have a great time. A guy in the band I'm in is 45 and has been a daily smoker for 30 years. He is highly functioning -- has a good job, has kids -- and can work while high. I guess he knows exactly his response and does enough to feel good but not enough to cause problems. He also has a really high tolerance.

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Post by petsfed »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #73
freedomben wrote: post #71

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> Dunno what would happen if I asked for one outright... Nowadays unless you're over 65 you'd be labelled with "drug seeking behavior" (in your records) and sent home with nothing and a "come to the hospital when you pass your stone." Forget the fact that the difference between drug-seeking behavior and legitimately needing something stronger is indistinguishable, and forget the fact that it will cost thousands upon…

American healthcare is a mess because of religious shit like this.

Its interesting because its a very specific, recent, and almost uniquely American religious concept, that's written into virtually every aspect of our culture.

That is, it seems like nowhere else has the idea of purification through suffering really taken hold at such a widespread level for so long. I'd argue its because its just the flipside of the Prosperity Gospel. If you assume that one's physical conditions are a reflection of one's spiritual choices, then your first move when someone says "I'm in pain, please help me with my pain" is to ask "What have you done to deserve this pain? I won't remove God-given pain; if you deserve it, it would be a sin to do so", instead of "Here's something to make the pain manageable while we figure out how to remove the source of the pain".

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Post by canadianfella »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #73
freedomben wrote: post #71

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> Dunno what would happen if I asked for one outright... Nowadays unless you're over 65 you'd be labelled with "drug seeking behavior" (in your records) and sent home with nothing and a "come to the hospital when you pass your stone." Forget the fact that the difference between drug-seeking behavior and legitimately needing something stronger is indistinguishable, and forget the fact that it will cost thousands upon…

American healthcare is a mess because of religious shit like this.

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Post by rossdavidh »

xattt wrote: post #32

Not mentioned in the article, but IV caffeine citrate is routinely used as a drip to support hypoventilating pre-term neonates.

Yes, my daughter (born several months prematurely) was given caffeine for a while. The nurses described it to me as "reminding her heart to keep beating and her lungs to keep working", since she was so premature that it wasn't something they were supposed to have to do without the mother's help yet.

My wife, who had gone through significant discomfort in order to cut off caffeine while pregnant (she was told otherwise the baby could be born already addicted to caffeine), was a bit exasperated when told that almost the first thing they did was give her daughter a caffeine IV. It was probably still the right thing for her to have done (so the caffeine IV had full affect), but I could sympathize with her position.

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Post by oilchange »

boppo1 wrote: post #105
searchingalways wrote: post #100

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Hey look something I’m relevant too as a dentist. Tooth decay requires several parameters 1- bacteria 2- bacteria food source 3- acidic environment 4- time We all have the bacteria but the other ones are somewhat controllable. What many people don’t account for is the 4th parameter of contact time. It would be better (for your teeth, not overall health) to rapidly drink several sodas than periodically sip one for sev…

So... how bad is a black coffee I sip on for 30 min? Google says the PH is about 5. No Also: it has definitely stained my teeth. Is there a way to remove the stains that doesn't weaken the enamel?

You can try drinking coffee through a straw.
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