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Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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Post by supernova87a » Sat, Jun 10, 2023, 5:32 PM UTC

newyorkahh wrote: post #110

mikeevans wrote: post #106

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Do people actually like the air train? I've never heard anyone say they'd prefer it over a subway that actually went to JFK. (and the increased cost/inability to use OMNY is ridiculous)

Definitely, my wife went to JFK this week and instead of taking the A to Howard Beach she went to Atlantic for the LIRR to Jamaica and AirTram from there. Faster and nicer.

Much agreed. I far prefer LIRR+Airtrain rather than taking the noisy and rickety subway.

Note the helpful Cityticket discount fare on LIRR as well!

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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Post by gipp » Sat, Jun 10, 2023, 7:31 PM UTC

mynameisvlad wrote: post #107

gipp wrote: post #22

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It's far too long for a bridge, which would also then cut the harbor in half anyway.

The longest bridges in the world are over 100km in length, why would this be too long? Bridges can also be tall, if the concern is cutting boat traffic.

The only bridges approaching that length over water are causeways. The harbor is too deep for that, and again a causeway would not permit shipping traffic.

It would also be a massive eyesore

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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Post by nashashmi » Sat, Jun 10, 2023, 10:50 PM UTC

wwalexander wrote: post #108

mikeevans wrote: post #106

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Do people actually like the air train? I've never heard anyone say they'd prefer it over a subway that actually went to JFK. (and the increased cost/inability to use OMNY is ridiculous)

I find it very silly that tourists need to buy a MetroCard just for the transfer from the AirTrain to the metro, and then never need it again afterwards because of OMNY.

Agreed . That is ridiculous. I encountered the same experience .

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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Post by nashashmi » Sat, Jun 10, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

mikeevans wrote: post #106

nashashmi wrote: post #103

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No one likes the current design of subway systems. Therefore it won't see any expansions. The new expansions currently in play are real deep and real expensive. Again no one likes this new design either. No one likes the system of elevated rails. No one likes the bussing system. What do people like? The expanding ferry line. The trolley on 3rd Ave Brooklyn. The air train. Cheaper fares. Until there is some new tech t…

Do people actually like the air train? I've never heard anyone say they'd prefer it over a subway that actually went to JFK. (and the increased cost/inability to use OMNY is ridiculous)

any form of new transportation is a welcome experience

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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Post by asdff » Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 4:35 AM UTC

pimlottc wrote: post #87

NoToP wrote: post #79

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Google maps seems to have evolved into something by and for car-centric user base.

Definitely. Offline maps are great but the only offline routing option is by car. If you want to walk, you have to figure it out yourself based on the driving directions. I can see from a business point of view that it might make sense to optimize for drivers, but it's irresponsible of them to ignore the impact they have on users. They're creating a self-perpetuating cycle.

Google only draws on the offline maps for me when I shut off my data. If I have a spotty connection, google maps will try and pull fresh data including the road mapping. Shut off LTE and suddenly the app works instantly.

Re: NYC Subwaysheds

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Post by asdff » Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 4:37 AM UTC

atyppo wrote: post #100

NoToP wrote: post #79

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Google maps seems to have evolved into something by and for car-centric user base.

Apple didn’t exactly do a speedy rollout of bike directions in their Maps app. I find it hard to blame Google here. Seems more like a symptom of our society to me.

The best transit app I use is this ancient mobile website from my local transit agency. It just has a live map of a chose route and shows where the busses are, and it looks like its some original mobile web app type of stuff like from 15 years ago. What makes it great is how lightweight it is. If I have a spotty data connection or I want to preserve battery, I know I can rely on it a lot more than google maps or other bloated transit apps.