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Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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Gravity waves are way too hard to detect and generate to be used for communication. The waves we can just barely detect too 8 solar masses worth of energy to generate.

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In the movie interstellar were they using gravitational communication to write the book? Can someone enlighten me?

Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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Is the gravity really constant ? I mean, big chunk of lava moving with different concentration of iron would make it change, wouldn't it?

> big chunk of lava moving with different concentration of iron would make it change, wouldn't it Why do you think the concentration of iron in magma would not be evenly distributed throughout the mantle?

The magma is not exactly a liquid. Neither is it homogeneous - the roots of the components of continental plates extend down hundreds of kilometers into the mantle. It is also possible to seismologically trace the remains of ancient continental plates which have otherwise all but disappeared from the crust.

Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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Isn't this the method used by the sub in Hunt for Red October? Or did they also use a gyroscopic and look for changes in the gravitational vector, not just its magnitude?

I haven't read the book, but in the film the problem was the Red October was using the caterpillar-drive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamic_drive (and not a propeller/impeller) but a chance detection by Dallas' sonar along with the ingenuity of Dallas' sonar operator, who figured out how to detect and track Sean Connery's boat. Nothing to do with gravity or gyroscopes at all.

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Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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Is the gravity really constant ? I mean, big chunk of lava moving with different concentration of iron would make it change, wouldn't it?

No, as the parent said it isn't. This is why you can create a map of the variations like this one: https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/11234

Undersea mountains have gravity signatures very similar to overland mountains, even though the latter are significantly closer to space?

Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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This is the most obvious practical application of my PhD topic. A Bose Einstein Condensate is an extremely sensitive detector of gravity- a nuclear submarine could use it to make an ultra-accurate map of the world based on variations in the gravitational constant g. This would remove one of the primary reasons subs need to surface , in order to GPS lock. It’s a naval chart that would not require surfacing. A French p…

The majority of INS platform drift is from a thing called "tilt error" - where the IRS initially misjudges the exact direction of the gravitational vector during alignment. All this will do is improve the accuracy of the accelerometers but will still have the drift caused in the INS itself. How will this make such a large improvement over what we have already?

It's not dead reckoning, it's continually fixing to a map.

Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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This is the most obvious practical application of my PhD topic. A Bose Einstein Condensate is an extremely sensitive detector of gravity- a nuclear submarine could use it to make an ultra-accurate map of the world based on variations in the gravitational constant g. This would remove one of the primary reasons subs need to surface , in order to GPS lock. It’s a naval chart that would not require surfacing. A French p…

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Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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This is the most obvious practical application of my PhD topic. A Bose Einstein Condensate is an extremely sensitive detector of gravity- a nuclear submarine could use it to make an ultra-accurate map of the world based on variations in the gravitational constant g. This would remove one of the primary reasons subs need to surface , in order to GPS lock. It’s a naval chart that would not require surfacing. A French p…

The majority of INS platform drift is from a thing called "tilt error" - where the IRS initially misjudges the exact direction of the gravitational vector during alignment. All this will do is improve the accuracy of the accelerometers but will still have the drift caused in the INS itself. How will this make such a large improvement over what we have already?

Let's use a magnetometer as an example. Inertial navigation system (INS) is just using the magnetometer as a compass, so errors in bearing accumulate over time. Instead, if you built a map of magnetic field strength, the slight spatial variation of field strength would let you precisely localize on the map.

In robotics parlance, this is the difference between dead reckoning versus SLAM (simultaneous localization and mapping).

Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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This is the most obvious practical application of my PhD topic. A Bose Einstein Condensate is an extremely sensitive detector of gravity- a nuclear submarine could use it to make an ultra-accurate map of the world based on variations in the gravitational constant g. This would remove one of the primary reasons subs need to surface , in order to GPS lock. It’s a naval chart that would not require surfacing. A French p…

Couldn't it also be used to detect submarines as well then? Given they're quite big.

Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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> big moving parts (e.g. the rotor) The shaft and screw are confined to the end of the sub. A navigation instrument like this would not be in the engineroom.

It is still way closer to the instrument than the deep end of the sea, most of the time. Square of distance is a very potent thing. I am reminded of this: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/05/microwave-ov...

Imagine spending 17 years to find the source of interference, and it's just Kyle with his chicken tenders.

Re: Royal Navy says quantum navigation test a success

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Gravity waves are way too hard to detect and generate to be used for communication. The waves we can just barely detect too 8 solar masses worth of energy to generate.

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> Here's what Chat-GPT4 has to say about the fidelity of "gravitational communication":

Who was the original author?

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