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Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by paisawalla »

afavour wrote: post #92
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

I’ve also been a Redditor for well over a decade. While I miss the days when it was a smaller niche site (before the Digg implosion it was basically a nerdier, smaller Digg) I still use and enjoy the site plenty today. I have never been accused of being a racist transphobe whatever, if that’s your number one issue with the site maybe some inward reflection is in order? Just don’t get involved in political flamewars,…

> I have never been accused of being a racist transphobe whatever, if that’s your number one issue with the site maybe some inward reflection is in order

Perhaps you simply haven't encountered the kind of person who, at the vaguest sense of an opportunity to claim the title of Most Moral Person, will leap up to condescend you based on the most uncharitable and motivated reading of your words.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by CoastalCoder »

DirectorKrennic wrote: post #70
drumhead wrote: post #64

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Its any view that they dont find acceptable however mild they may be. If you dont fit into their political world view you're likely to be banned. Discussion unless you subscribe the dominant viewpoints is almost impossible on reddit. Say something the majority dont like and you're downvoted into oblivion or banned. Literally the only place left where you can speak your mind without censure is sadly 4chan.

> Say something the majority dont like and you're downvoted into oblivion So? That's how every society works everywhere. Don't disturb the peace. You are an adult. You're entitled to your opinion, but you should have the courage of your convictions. Reddit is no different from other social media platforms in this regard, even HN.

> So?

The issue is that we lose a forum for clearly examining and correcting our own beliefs, be they popular or unpopular.

This is the echo-chamber effect, and it's the antithesis of curious discussion.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by CoastalCoder »

philistine wrote: post #76
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

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This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

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> You must be fun at parties.

FYI,this can come across as an ad hominem attack.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by fodkodrasz »

tourmalinetaco wrote: post #103
DirectorKrennic wrote: post #70

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> Say something the majority dont like and you're downvoted into oblivion So? That's how every society works everywhere. Don't disturb the peace. You are an adult. You're entitled to your opinion, but you should have the courage of your convictions. Reddit is no different from other social media platforms in this regard, even HN.

Downvotes are not a productive means of communication. If you have problems with my views be an adult and oppose my views rationally. Otherwise ignore me and move on. Having any form of social credit score that can be abused to silence others is quite literally a pillar of authoritarianism and de-incentivizes the free flow of ideas if they disagree with established groupthink. It doesn’t matter if the majority believ…

Guess you haven’t criticized Californian way of business and was banned by d*** for it yet.

Nothing of value lost with the user full of internet-points. Though I’m no reddit user (never was), so it may be really worse there, but this was already too much bullshit for my post-communist easter-european taste.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by xp84 »

swalsh wrote: post #44
neom wrote: post #22

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Facebook made Cassandra specifically because of this. https://www.cs.cornell.edu/projects/ladis2009/papers/lakshma...

There was a period around 2010 where developers all declared sql dead, and started playing with nosql solutions. My personal experience at the time was, most people didn't have Facebook's scaling problems, and they created terrible tech debts as a result. Eventually most people remembered why SQL was so great, and they added Redis if they needed a cache. The Ruby people though still liked those NoSQL stuff, and I'll…

I’ve been working in Ruby that whole time, and Postgres is like the right arm of the prototypical Ruby app. We did have a fad where Mongo was used at my company in the early ‘10s, and indeed we had little choice but to do rewrite that part. We actually had an amazing intern do that one year.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by psygn89 »

afavour wrote: post #92
unsupp0rted wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

I’ve also been a Redditor for well over a decade. While I miss the days when it was a smaller niche site (before the Digg implosion it was basically a nerdier, smaller Digg) I still use and enjoy the site plenty today. I have never been accused of being a racist transphobe whatever, if that’s your number one issue with the site maybe some inward reflection is in order? Just don’t get involved in political flamewars,…

I haven't been called that either, but I know what he means... many of Reddit's bigger community comment section basically seems to devolve into politics or racial issues even if it was a photo of a cute kitten. Often you'll basically see the comment section locked after it runs that course. The old reddit wasn't like that unless you visited political subreddits.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by malfist »

TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #98
kristiandupont wrote: post #84

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>every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Nobody on Reddit has called me any of those things.

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> Personally, I'm working on a reddit bot to spam the site/pm users with the truth

I hope that is sarcasm. Consent is important, and spamming people with whatever pet theory you've decided is the "truth" is certainly not the actions of a moral person.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by btreecat »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #51
deergomoo wrote: post #18

Good read. Interesting that the author’s takeaway is that folks consider Digg v4 to be a catastrophic launch because of the myriad technical issues. I don’t even remember there being technical issues, I just remember logging in one day to find a website I enjoyed replaced with a bunch of crap I wasn’t interested in.

This is why I’m excited for the Reddit third party apps change. In a few years nobody will remember that this is what precipitated the fall of Reddit. It’s already turned into an echo-chamber of nonsense, ruled by all-powerful mods to whom every user is a racist transphobe nazi homophobe enemy. Even the smaller subs catch the contagion year over year. I’ve been a Redditor since before the narwhal baconed at midnight.…

As someone who used to mod, jfc you're clearly one of the folks who was a problem if that's your opening position.

I know that had you stepped up to help out one of your favorite subs, you'd have a different lense. You comment is v clearly just ignorant.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

deergomoo wrote: post #18

Good read. Interesting that the author’s takeaway is that folks consider Digg v4 to be a catastrophic launch because of the myriad technical issues. I don’t even remember there being technical issues, I just remember logging in one day to find a website I enjoyed replaced with a bunch of crap I wasn’t interested in.

Glad to see this as the top comment. I was a "Digg refugee" to Reddit, and I do remember a lot of outages with V4, but just like you, I remember thinking more clearly "Why would I wait a long time for this page to load when all that comes back is spam." It was the most useless, uninteresting set of basically ads that I could think of. Imagine if Reddit had no interesting user submitted stories but was instead 100% of some of their worst ads that try to use "Reddit meme language". It was pathetic and sad.

Re: Digg's v4 launch: an optimism born of necessity (2018)

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Post by btreecat »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #97
afavour wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve also been a Redditor for well over a decade. While I miss the days when it was a smaller niche site (before the Digg implosion it was basically a nerdier, smaller Digg) I still use and enjoy the site plenty today. I have never been accused of being a racist transphobe whatever, if that’s your number one issue with the site maybe some inward reflection is in order? Just don’t get involved in political flamewars,…

I got banned from /r/CanadaCoronavirus for saying at the time we didn't yet know how many doses and on what schedule of the vaccine would be needed. Banned. That's anti-vaxx propaganda on my part, evidently. I messaged the mods to explain that I was triple-vaxxed and what I said was not only factually correct, it wasn't even controversial. The mods patiently replied that anti-vaxx trolls like me will be reported to r…

That doesn't sound like the full story.
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