I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

"I'm a designer so it's interesting to me what's behind all the Facebook hate."

I don't trust FB, but I don't hate it. Not trusting someone does not mean you hating them.

I don't trust a rapist to have a friendship relationship with my niece but this does not mean I hate them, I 'm just not going to let it happen. I visit them at jail and they are not monsters, they just feel a urge to rape.

I don't trust my sons playing with fire either(single digits years old) but I don't hate them, I love them.

I don't trust FB with my personal info because it is none of their business. Or should I say it is because their business is selling personal info to third parties.

That you don't see what they do with your data does not mean that it does not exist(out of sight, out of mind).

(Edited PS) What people HATE is being forced to use something they don't want to use in order to do something they want to do(like use this service).

And real newspapers. And magazines, cable tv, movies, etc...

If they did tracking based on IPs, they'd get some pretty screwed up results. My university alone has hundreds of FB users behind a dozen IPs or less. Even my home alone has two.

1. I think the on-boarding process to an app is probably more crucial the app itself. This is purely anecdotal, but as an early adopter whenever I go through the trouble of downloading an app which greets me with “Create An Account”, I'm almost always immediately turned off. In some cases I've just excited the app and hit un-install. The last thing I need is another account, with a service I may not use for more than 15mins.

I think the best process is to give users a feel for your product without an account being necessary. Maybe it's just in READ mode with the ability to WRITE enabled upon signup. Or just simply ask for an email address which is then used as a unique identifier for your account. Oink did this awhile back.

2. I think the Facebook hate is miss-placed. Do you really hate Facebook (provider of a tool) or those who spam you via Facebook (users of the tool)? If you're so worried about Facebook tracking you offsite, why have an account at all? They're in the business of collecting, optimizing, and monetizing the social graph. If their platform has more 'cons' than 'pros' I think you should ditch it and keep your tin foil hat on. I myself use it, with my tin foil hat on, but don't go through the hoops to block it as some of you are doing.

I trust facebook for doing every wrong thing and the other that I can imagine. It's their business model and whole reason of existence.

I don't appreciate the repeated attacks against personal freedom (they like to call it privacy) and against the internet and open web. I dislike the methods and techniques of manipulation they used.

For someone who had some experience of the internet it was quite obvious what was going to happen, history repeats itself, except that when microsoft tried to bypass the internet and build a microsoft network a.k.a. msn, included in windows, they failed hard.

Now with the critical mass and sheer momentum, everyone and their friends are asking to have the closed and proprietary facebooknet preloaded in their mobile device. But I won't be part of the effort to destroy the open internet, so I quit google and its free services and block everything facebook.