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Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by AbrahamParangi »

avn2109 wrote: post #99

One underappreciated aspect of this is ban is that anyone who wants Tiktok will just go download it in Wyoming or Idaho etc, as it seems to be merely a ban on downloading the app, and not a ban on Tiktok traffic itself. So the ban will have near zero actual impact in practice (even if it somehow makes it into effect). Furthermore, it's unclear if the web app of Tiktok will be affected, or if it's only a ban on the mo…

These addiction apps rely on the activation energy to keep slurping on the dopamine straw be ~0.

I bet if you forced a 10 second boot time to the app you would reduce usage by 40%.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

falcolas wrote: post #107
avn2109 wrote: post #99

One underappreciated aspect of this is ban is that anyone who wants Tiktok will just go download it in Wyoming or Idaho etc, as it seems to be merely a ban on downloading the app, and not a ban on Tiktok traffic itself. So the ban will have near zero actual impact in practice (even if it somehow makes it into effect). Furthermore, it's unclear if the web app of Tiktok will be affected, or if it's only a ban on the mo…

Last I heard, there was a "per use" fine for usage as well. Honestly, I haven't looked at this farce of a bill since it was first introduced. EDIT: S1: An entity violates this prohibition when any of the following occurs within the territorial jurisdiction of Montana: (a) the operation of tiktok by the company or users; or (b) the option to download the tiktok mobile application by a mobile application store.

Does a state even have a right to do something like this?

Somehow, I feel like if California tried to ban Fox News - it would not fly.

This doesn't seem that different, though I personally find it amusing that it's coming from a conservative state.

I do agree TikTok is toxic trash - but I'd say the same about Fox News - and it just doesn't seem like something a state has the ability to ban.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by viraptor »

Slightly off topic - I'm not sure I've heard the gov stating it plainly in the recent years: "the People's Republic of China is an adversary of the United States" (from the bill). Did I just miss it / glance over, or is this out of character for officially released gov documents?

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by seanw444 »

avn2109 wrote: post #99

One underappreciated aspect of this is ban is that anyone who wants Tiktok will just go download it in Wyoming or Idaho etc, as it seems to be merely a ban on downloading the app, and not a ban on Tiktok traffic itself. So the ban will have near zero actual impact in practice (even if it somehow makes it into effect). Furthermore, it's unclear if the web app of Tiktok will be affected, or if it's only a ban on the mo…

Or you could just not even need to go to another state. People will learn to use a VPN.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by DubiousPusher »

swayvil wrote: post #93

How do you ban an app? Random phone inspection?

I imagine that they will go after the source. Basically Apple, Google, Samsung and Microsoft will have to hide the app in their respective stores for Montana users. That is, if there isn't an injunction before it even goes anywhere.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by organsnyder »

viraptor wrote: post #113

Slightly off topic - I'm not sure I've heard the gov stating it plainly in the recent years: "the People's Republic of China is an adversary of the United States" (from the bill). Did I just miss it / glance over, or is this out of character for officially released gov documents?

The state of Montana doesn't speak for the federal government.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by TrainedMonkey »

avn2109 wrote: post #99

One underappreciated aspect of this is ban is that anyone who wants Tiktok will just go download it in Wyoming or Idaho etc, as it seems to be merely a ban on downloading the app, and not a ban on Tiktok traffic itself. So the ban will have near zero actual impact in practice (even if it somehow makes it into effect). Furthermore, it's unclear if the web app of Tiktok will be affected, or if it's only a ban on the mo…

Disagree with zero impact, it is a question of accessibility. Downloading an app is easy, going to another state to download an app is significantly harder. You are right that this does not stop determined people from downloading TikTok, but it definitely will slow down user growth in Montana... and open the door to further regulation in the future.
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