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Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by fmajid »

deadeye wrote: post #74
powersnail wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think there are many truly luxurious options in the category of everyday items. The ultra wealthy have the same options as the middle class in terms of apple corer, mobile phones, tablets, toilets, or streaming services. Luxuries would be things like hiring personal assistants, hand-made/customized items, art collections, etc. An emperor wouldn't have a golden hoe, because he doesn't farm.

Funny you mention toilets. I've seen a $8k toilet. I think it was from kolher. Found it: https://www.wayfair.com/home-improvement/pdp/kohler-numi-20-...

Michael Bloomberg had a $13,000 bespoke bathtub made of hammered copper by French artisans in Villedieu-les-Poëles near Mont Saint Michel, the only place with the skills to make such a thing. Copper conducts heat very well so it takes the temperature of water immediately. No cold bathtub walls for Michael. Compared to the $8K mass-produced toilet, it almost seems like a bargain now.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by huhtenberg »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #72
deadeye wrote: post #32

Serious question, if you inherited tens of millions of dollars and wanted to spend it on premium things, where can you buy insanly luxurious every day items? Like: An apple corer? A Yeti (like) cup? A mobile phone? Kids toys? I've always wondered this. I live in a world of throw away quality every day items. Do the ultra wealthy have luxury options for these things?

When you're that rich, your "every day items" do not include yeti cups or apple corers.

Why not? It's not like I'm going to summon Jeeves every time I want to eat an apple. Not every rich person is a snobby aristocrat who faints at a thought of any manual labor.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by wmf »

jd3 wrote: post #92
javajosh wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strong disagree. I bought an OP-1 and it felt like a cheap plastic toy. It's a cool UX concept and I'm glad they exist, but I wasn't impressed. Give me a (relatively) cheap Yamaha or Roland or Nord keyboard any day of the week (and if you want ultra-portability, then put an app on an iPad).

I was also disappointed with my OP-1. After receiving a unit that had a broken OLED display, I received a replacement whose rotary encoder knobs were visibly askew. When I reached out about it, TE told me that it was "normal". I would expect tighter QA control on a product that is $1000+, but since it is made offshore in China, I guess they can only do so much? https://i.imgur.com/7KrxVZr.jpg

Apple products are also made in China. You get as much quality as you pay for, which may come in the form of having your own employee in the factory.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by holografix »

This is so neat and the design looks so thoughtful. But USD$1500 is just… pornographic. I immediately wanted one and steeled myself for what I thought was going to be $300-400. I LoL’ed when I saw the real price.

Might as well charge $15000

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by throwaway675309 »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #36
dvt wrote: post #8

I know everyone's going to complain about the price (which is ridiculous), but I think Teenage Engineering is the last company around that has that sleek Apple aesthetic and extremely premium feel. I get giddy every time I see them on the HN front page. They've been around for a while, so I assume there's a decent professional audiophile community that is supporting them. I hope they continue doing well!

It doesn’t seem ridiculous if you’re a professional whose life revolves around voice recording. Seems like prosumer quality pricing.

If you're a professional you're going to be using a professional tool, not an overpriced shiny looking toy.

In this case almost every person I know who's doing field recordings is using a zoom Hx series or something similar.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by throwaway675309 »

larvaetron wrote: post #42

I feel like I'm the only person who isn't a fan of Teenage Engineering's design. It's all a bit too uncanny valley for me.

I'm right there with you - I don't like the muted pastel color palette choices, the structural design, etc.

I also think at that price point, there is a sunken cost fallacy that contractually obligates people to defend the visual design to the death.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by fmajid »

mandmandam wrote: post #46
smoldesu wrote: post #2

$1,500? For a field recorder? That's not a crazy number for a digital synthesizer. It's eye-watering for a pocket-sized mixer. For a microphone though? This is madness. You carry a cell phone with you every day - if you need more, you buy a Zoom handheld for maybe ~$150. There's no shortage of pissing-and-moaning about Teenage Engineering hardware, but goddamn . They are really betting on people not wanting to open t…

This is Emperor's New Clothes level silliness. "But it's art" - Yeah, well, lots of overpriced art is ugly and stupid; serving only the noble purpose of separating wealthy fools from money. If people want to pay €1500 to show me they're a complete rube, they can go right ahead. I'll be here judging them, briefly and against my better judgment, before moving on to actually enjoyable and productive pastimes.

I'm pretty sure the Juicero was a deadpan form of performance art, like Piero Manzoni's, ahem, crappy work.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by kyawzazaw »

huhtenberg wrote: post #110
akiselev wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a whole industry catering to that niche. Magazines like Luxury Launches [1] or Robb Report [2] and retailers like James Edition [3]. You can tell them apart from normal retailers because the menu will have categories for jewelry and helicopters. For example, here's a $990 100mL bottle of Balsamic vinegar I found on Robb Report that's aged for a century [4]. Most of these are for private concierges and assista…

Well, that's not it. The OP's not asking about luxury, exclusive stuff, of which there's plenty. Just ordinary things that just aren't cheaply made.

I mean the wirecutter is pretty good.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by lazzlazzlazz »

It's beautiful and sparks joy. But a Zoom F3 is a strictly superior device in all dimensions and costs $350. This recorder doesn't even support microSD cards or replaceable batteries. It's fundamentally unserious.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by fassssst »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #119

It's beautiful and sparks joy. But a Zoom F3 is a strictly superior device in all dimensions and costs $350. This recorder doesn't even support microSD cards or replaceable batteries. It's fundamentally unserious.

Yea, and the F3 has 32-bit recording which means you don't really have to worry about gain and clipping. It's a big miss that this doesn't have 32-bit audio especially given that the OP-1 Field's audio pipeline is all 32-bit.
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