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Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Post by snapcaster » Thu, May 04, 2023, 11:53 AM UTC

AmericanChopper wrote: post #107

snapcaster wrote: post #106

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I guess we maybe differ here on what would constitute success for suppression. I see it as a "success" because the law stood for so long despite being pretty apparently unconstitutional. It is fair to see it as a failure since it eventually was overturned. Maybe the crux here is I probably agree with you that permanent suppression is impossible but temporary is super doable and temporary can be a fairly large fractio…

I guess that’s an interesting way to backpedal without acknowledging how outright wrong your highly dogmatic comment was. There was a time in the past when there could be some merit to where you’ve chosen to move the goalposts. But there is now, and has been for some time, a higher court precedent that invalidates this position.

What do you mean? they were banned, the company i was working for almost went under because we were banned from providing any technology to a chinese tech company. That did get reversed but only after almost destroying the company. The android OS was caught up in that as well. How are these not suppressions?

Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Post by cwkoss » Thu, May 04, 2023, 5:59 PM UTC

soylentcola wrote: post #102

cwkoss wrote: post #97

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I think public accessibility of AI is a greater threat to humanity than skynet or paperclip maximizer scenarios. Superintelligent 'conscious' AI seems likely to be quite moral out of the box. Advanced amoral AI controlled by greedy capitalists seems like it could quickly exacerbate wealth inequality by orders of magnitude, turning the middle class into serfs using total surveillance to implement authoritarian fascism…

> Call me a derisive cynic, but I think the GOP voter base just isn't intelligent enough to be interested in AI issues Just wait until someone decides the latest LLM du jour is "woke". > The Dems have shifted from the party of information freedom to openly embracing censorship and state propaganda in the past decade. And this has been a common weak point of theirs for longer than that. Nanny-state, "we know what's be…

> someone decides the latest LLM du jour is "woke".

This would be an argument against giving the big players a regulatory moat monopoly. The zeitgeist would have to decide that LLMs are all inherently woke for this to be persuasive to GOP voters, in my estimation.

Re: Google, Microsoft CEOs Called to AI Meeting at White House

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Post by permo-w » Fri, May 05, 2023, 1:56 AM UTC

trafficante wrote: post #101

permo-w wrote: post #74

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I was mostly joking, but even so most of this is a stretch as of now I could be wrong, but I’m fairly sure we’re not yet at the point of convincing, real-time voice gen, nor any kind of decent quality TV (sadly), although printed text and (non-live) radio are certainly viable right now

Real-time convincing-sounding TTS is extremely close - I’d be surprised if we don’t get an elevenlabs equivalent to gpt-turbo before the end of summer. I spent an hour or three over the weekend messing around in Skyrim VR with a mod that does player speech recognition, pipes it out to GPT with identifier tags to give scene context, sends GPT output to elevenlabs (optional), and then the mod integrates it into Skyrim…

that’s fascinating. God only knows where we’ll be with this stuff in ten years time