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Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by hospitalJail »

graypegg wrote: post #10
ravenbitcoin wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see much spam. It's far, far less than Twitter. I can mute people I don't want to see. And I can be anonymous if I want. What exactly did you mean?

Is it possible you don’t see much spam because it’s currently not big enough to be worth spamming?

As much as I like the idea of anonymous posting, there are some serious issues with spam/astroturfing.

I'm ready to join a social media website that requires a social security number, photo ID, and interview process.

I've had enough of propagandists and marketers.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by _fizz_buzz_ »

cube2222 wrote: post #22

On the last HN thread about Nostr I've mentioned Bluesky, and talked about its qualities, including the separation of various duties, like the feed, moderation, storage, etc. into different entities that can be pluggable. Since that I got an invite (thank you, Sam!) and I'm even more bullish now (though I'm not much of a social media poster myself). Compared to Nostr it seems like there's a first-party "base" app tha…

Seems like bluesky will be where people move from twitter. I was kind of hoping mastodon would be it and my mastodon feed is actually pretty good. But everyone seems to be moving to bluesky as soon as they get an invite.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by m4lvin »

jb55 wrote: post #5

Author of damus[1] here. We’ve seen a crazy growth in nostr in the past couple of months. Damus itself sees about 1000 to 10,000 download per week, and we’re up to about 500k to 1mil+ users (hard to get exact numbers on a decentralized network). Exciting times for social networking protocols! [1] https://damus.io

How does damus relate to nostr? Your landing page does not explain this at all. Is this because already the concepts of (distinguishing) client and network would be considered too technical for your target audience?

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by m4lvin »

rektide wrote: post #28
pharmakom wrote: post #4

Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

Nostr is decentralized. I think a big part of the idea is that relays just dont carry spam/bad actors. The protocol doesn't, as of yet, have need to handle most of your "it doesn't handle complex social issues X Y or Z" nags because it so far handles these problems socially, not technically, and that's been working for now. Nostr is all based on anonymous cryptographic identifiers, so it seems like you have some spec…

Can you explain why nostr is (apparently?) your favorite over scuttlebutt? Are the protocols similar?

https://scuttlebutt.nz/

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by channel_t »

xigoi wrote: post #101
throwaway4837 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't like Bitcoin, you could always just get an address and if you get tipped, sell immediately. I don't see how this is any different than an app with "gems" you can buy and re-sell back to the app. Some games like Entropia[0] have a fixed exchange rate with the dollar, allowing you to "cash out" of the game, if holding game currency isn't your thing. It's just game currency essentially for the social app. W…

> I don't see how this is any different than an app with "gems" you can buy and re-sell back to the app. The difference is that the Bitcoin transaction will cause millions of computers to waste a serious amount of electricity calculating hashes over and over.

IIRC lightning network transactions only use as much electricity as 10 emails, although I guess at some point a real Bitcoin transaction will happen eventually.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by sleepybrett »

hospitalJail wrote: post #110
JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #43

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I like alternatives to big sites but this sentence makes me nervous: "Bitcoin & , the native currency of the internet." Is there a need for this?

I'm with you on every crypto except Bitcoin, but nothing about bitcoin should make you nervous. Its nice you live in a country with a stable currency that doesnt hyperinflate. Not everyone has this luxury. Zimbabwe and Venezuela come to mind.

Look at all that virtue.

Bitcoin started a literal tsunami of financial crimes, I feel bad for hyperinflated countries and if they find some use in bitcoin that's great for them, but I for one will stay the fuck away from anything blockchain related if I can help it.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by sleepybrett »

pharmakom wrote: post #4

Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

When I see a platform that advertises as 'censorship-resistant' as it's top line I just figure it for libertarian bullshit.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by r721 »

rchaud wrote: post #88
rektide wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nostr is decentralized. I think a big part of the idea is that relays just dont carry spam/bad actors. The protocol doesn't, as of yet, have need to handle most of your "it doesn't handle complex social issues X Y or Z" nags because it so far handles these problems socially, not technically, and that's been working for now. Nostr is all based on anonymous cryptographic identifiers, so it seems like you have some spec…

> I think a big part of the idea is that relays just dont carry spam/bad actors. How would the relay evaluate what is spam and what is not?

Yeah, I just don't understand what would relay operator actually do if someone would generate 10k key pairs and post 100k gpt-generated replies to some random posts.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by hospitalJail »

sleepybrett wrote: post #116
hospitalJail wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with you on every crypto except Bitcoin, but nothing about bitcoin should make you nervous. Its nice you live in a country with a stable currency that doesnt hyperinflate. Not everyone has this luxury. Zimbabwe and Venezuela come to mind.

Look at all that virtue. Bitcoin started a literal tsunami of financial crimes, I feel bad for hyperinflated countries and if they find some use in bitcoin that's great for them, but I for one will stay the fuck away from anything blockchain related if I can help it.

On a similar note, cellphones/internet allow all sorts of crime. Cars, make it easy to commit crimes. Food, allows people to use energy to fuel themselves to commit crimes. Water/boats/international trade: huge for crime. Cash, great for crime. Government, could be complicit in crime.

ChatGPT says you used "hasty generalization" fallacy, but I'm not sure that is the correct fallacy. You have a fallacy here.

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