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Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by atlantic »

horsawlarway wrote: post #38

I want to see this legislated out of existence. To be clear, because every time this comes up some dickfucks come in here and start making excuses about how it's better to rent in some cases and that this is just amortizing the whole payment, and there are some people who want this: No. This is a fucking terrible deal even just using mercedes numbers. It takes a whopping 30 months (2.5 years) for the monthly payment…

If you don't like it, just don't buy cars whose performance is artificially limited. Let the market decide the issue.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by elforce002 »

This is interesting. Mercedes is making a bold move trying to enter the subscription arena. Its customer base is affluent to say the least but I think this move won't fly with them.

I'm willing to bet that if the EU forces Car manufacturers to stop making ICE cars, China, South Korea, Japan will become the biggest Car makers in the world.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by vannevar »

rootusrootus wrote: post #81
vannevar wrote: post #64

The first EV startup that emerges with a dumb EV (minimal software to actually operate) for around $30K will have a best-seller. Nobody actually wants the subscription-based car, it's gradually being forced on consumers via industry collusion.

Why does it have to be a startup? You can buy a dumb EV for under $30K today from GM. And yeah, it does sell pretty well. The vast, vast majority of EVs sold today are not forcing subscriptions of any kind on their customers. A couple minor carmakers are trying a new business model.

It doesn't have to be a startup, no. But GM is discontinuing the Bolt, which I assume is the car you're referring to. And as far as I know, most EVs are evolving in the direction of more software complexity, not less. When I say a dumb EV, I'm talking analog knobs and buttons, no touch screen, no over-the-air updates. A disconnected vehicle.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

atlantic wrote: post #111
horsawlarway wrote: post #38

I want to see this legislated out of existence. To be clear, because every time this comes up some dickfucks come in here and start making excuses about how it's better to rent in some cases and that this is just amortizing the whole payment, and there are some people who want this: No. This is a fucking terrible deal even just using mercedes numbers. It takes a whopping 30 months (2.5 years) for the monthly payment…

If you don't like it, just don't buy cars whose performance is artificially limited. Let the market decide the issue.

>If you don't like it, just don't buy cars whose performance is artificially limited. Let the market decide the issue.

You are unfortunately one of the apologetic quote, "dickfucks", endquote the parent was referring too. When all players eventually do this, where will you got to buy?

There is no more free market left in the auto industry after a century of consolidations. We're at the mercy of a few giant automakers who own the entire market and make the rules in their flavor. The current greed-flation is another nail in the coffin of the "free market competition benefits the consumer" trope.

If we had left everything to the so called "free market" our food would have still contained lead, mercury and arsenic. That's why governments need to step in and regulate some things in flavor of the consumer because we can't expect the corporations to do it themselves through "free market" competition, as it's much easy and profitable for them to form rent-seeking cartels and work against us that compete for us.

It seems all lessons from the past have been forgotten.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by foxyv »

notnotjake wrote: post #102
foxyv wrote: post #100

The best EV is an electric bus with trolley lines or a tram. I hate that I have to own a monstrous depreciating asset to have reliable transportation. If you think people are buying this to drive on a track you are naive. They are paying $60/month to make their already unsafe overweight vehicle even more unsafe. I hope they go bankrupt.

tram will never come to the farm land. cars seem useful in low-density, very spread out regions.

Cars should be the exception rather than the rule. We have spent so long catering to them that we have ruined our downtowns and public transit systems. We have diverted funding that should have been spent on transportation for everyone to individual transportation. This has left North American elderly, disabled, and youth trapped and unable to move around our hostile and ugly cities.

A farm truck or tractor makes a lot of sense in the middle of a farming community to do work. The same truck or tractor in an urban downtown will kill children and crowd out transit.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by smnrchrds »

atlantic wrote: post #111
horsawlarway wrote: post #38

I want to see this legislated out of existence. To be clear, because every time this comes up some dickfucks come in here and start making excuses about how it's better to rent in some cases and that this is just amortizing the whole payment, and there are some people who want this: No. This is a fucking terrible deal even just using mercedes numbers. It takes a whopping 30 months (2.5 years) for the monthly payment…

If you don't like it, just don't buy cars whose performance is artificially limited. Let the market decide the issue.

It's curious that the market (almost?) always decides what is bad for the consumer and profitable for the companies. As a person who is a person not a company, I would rather we don't let the market decide so much about our lives.

Examples: Smart (spying ad-showing) TVs, non-compete agreements, water heater rentals, not-really-unlimited "unlimited data" cell plans, surveillance economy, only-rentable-not-buyable software and films and TV shows and audiobooks, etc.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by beerpls »

horsawlarway wrote: post #38

I want to see this legislated out of existence. To be clear, because every time this comes up some dickfucks come in here and start making excuses about how it's better to rent in some cases and that this is just amortizing the whole payment, and there are some people who want this: No. This is a fucking terrible deal even just using mercedes numbers. It takes a whopping 30 months (2.5 years) for the monthly payment…

Thank you for being a voice of righteousness in a sea of simps.

It’s hard to tell on this site, are people really this devoted to corps or are they shills?

Even with what you said there are still so many people defending this behavior. The world is full of weak and/or deceitful people.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by my_usernam3 »

gwbas1c wrote: post #86

I've had this (cough) "opportunity" in my Tesla for as long as I can remember. (Dual-motor Model 3, it's well-known that it's mostly software differences to make it the performance version.) Guess what: My Tesla is fast enough. I don't feel any need to pay more money to make it go faster. (I'm not going to whine about rent-seeking or how I own it and I should be able to do what I want with it. Instead, I'm going to p…

> it's well-known that it's mostly software differences to make it the performance version.

Do you have a source of this, news to me

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by verdverm »

incone123 wrote: post #58
verdverm wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I paid for Windows once and continue to get updates. Same for my eInk tablet. Why should my car not be the same?

Leaving aside that your car shouldn't need updates for the basic function of going faster when you push the accelerator, do you want to have an unskippable advert played on the car's display before you can pull away?

Why would my car, that I purchased, have ads at all?
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