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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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> despite Netflix investing in Spanish content They are obligated by law to create this content See: https://www.innovationmcc.com/post/spain-will-now-protect-it... > "Towards the end of 2018, European Parliament approved a law that requires all platforms that provide audiovisual content throughout the continent to have at least 30% European productions within their programming." Edit: formatting

Wow, I never heard about that and I suspect it's not well-known at all inside the EU.

Well, I'm from inside EU and I know it (:

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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“ living in the Golden era.” If you actually lived in a Golden Era entertainment would be free, quality, and meant to enrich the people instead of advertise and moralize to them. I really don’t understand how a DVD collection is an “essential service” either. Or why you would effectively choose not to look at your watching statistics and then simply buy the media you watch the most. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1345034685…

Convenience and discoverability?

Netflix does those worse than a 3rd party “recommend me similar movies” or even just IMDb lists.

I guess if you think it recommending you “MegaShark vs. Giant Octopus Cat”… because you liked Jaws is helpful? I think personally it is not.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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How do they detect account borrowing? only through simultaneous use? When I pay for the service I expect some low number of simultaneous clients (say 2-4) to be able to stream. Obviously sharing my password means sharing that quota and if the number of concurrent streams is 1 then the password isn't shareable at all. What I don't like though is when there can only be a fixed number of authenticated devices, whether t…

You have to tell to Netflix what Wi-Fi network are you using (your usual Wi-Fi is assigned by default). If your device doesn't connect to that Wi-Fi network at least once in a month, your device is blocked. You can still share accounts using a personal VPN network.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Do you think most sharers are contributing to the price? I really don’t think that’s the case. I’ve never heard of anyone charging family members for access to their Netflix account. There might be some friend groups who split the cost of an account between them, but I suspect far more common is that parents have an account that kids (who might be independent adults) use, couples who don’t live together sharing passw…

>> Do you think most sharers are contributing to the price? All of them? Certainly not. Many? Yes. >> There might be some friend groups who split the cost of an account between them, but I suspect far more common is that parents have an account that kids (who might be independent adults) use, couples who don’t live together sharing passwords Yes, but although we don't have details on demographics, in Europe it is wid…

I'll double down with another anecdote:

It is very common sense here to say "Ok, I'll cover Netflix, you'll cover Disney+/Spotify/other"

The moment when one of this services doesn't allow sharing anymore, this system will fall, and users will be incredibly more selective to what they will subscribe to.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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It's interesting to see that free market competition actually worsened the customer offering when it comes to streaming services. Back in the days, Netflix was a one-to-see-all service and that was also one of the reasons why it took people from torrenting to paying for movies. Nowadays, if you want to watch a particular movie, you have maybe a 10% chance that it is available on the streaming service that you are cur…

As an old movie kind of guy: I don't get why nobody wants me to have a big economical catalogue of all the movies. If you want to watch stuff from before about 1990 your best bet is pirating it off Youtube, oddly. Or hoping it's part of the 20th Century Fox that ended up on Disney+. The most generous film studio is .. Mosfilm. I suppose it's fitting that the Communist movies are available for free. (Criterion looks p…

That's the paradox: everybody wants to build and operate that since it's obvious everyone would subscribe to such a service, it'd be a cash cow, a golden goose, etc. But nobody wants to share their slice of the copyright and licensing pie with anybody else for revenue reasons, brand reasons, whatever, so we're slowly moving back toward the cable model with 200 subscriptions and nothing to watch. Torrents will be back, big time, since they actually provide the service everybody wants.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Not really that surprising is it? I'm waiting for the day they send me the inevitable notice to pay more, aka the day I cancel Netflix. They could get away with this if their offering was substantially better than the competitors but thse days it's not. Pumping out complete crap like 'The Floor is Lava' and the 9 millionth cake contest isn't what built their massive customer base. These days when a new hyped show com…

The only new show I thoroughly enjoyed on netflix lately was "who is the mole" which is based off the dutch hit series "wie is de mol" which is an absolutely fantastic and unique game show.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to see that free market competition actually worsened the customer offering when it comes to streaming services. Back in the days, Netflix was a one-to-see-all service and that was also one of the reasons why it took people from torrenting to paying for movies. Nowadays, if you want to watch a particular movie, you have maybe a 10% chance that it is available on the streaming service that you are cur…

As an old movie kind of guy: I don't get why nobody wants me to have a big economical catalogue of all the movies. If you want to watch stuff from before about 1990 your best bet is pirating it off Youtube, oddly. Or hoping it's part of the 20th Century Fox that ended up on Disney+. The most generous film studio is .. Mosfilm. I suppose it's fitting that the Communist movies are available for free. (Criterion looks p…

Mubi (https://mubi.com/) is nice. You don’t get a huge catalogue but they cycle it very regularly with varying thematic focus and showcase a mix of old movies and new art releases. It feels a bit like a cinema club. I recommend.

Sadly people focus as definitely shifted toward serial shows rather than films so movie streaming is not really an interesting market to address. I’m really confused by that because the feeling I get from 90% of the show I try to watch and always fail to finish is that there is a good movie hiding in the indulgent editing. Even prestige TV shows are full of padding.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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post #39

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> despite Netflix investing in Spanish content They are obligated by law to create this content See: https://www.innovationmcc.com/post/spain-will-now-protect-it... > "Towards the end of 2018, European Parliament approved a law that requires all platforms that provide audiovisual content throughout the continent to have at least 30% European productions within their programming." Edit: formatting

Wow, I never heard about that and I suspect it's not well-known at all inside the EU.

I would say it is known and while they are obliged in a way to do it, I don't believe any other streaming service is doing it in the scale that Netflix does
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