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Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by legohead »

jerglingu wrote: post #22

Had a similar experience, but with the much more tame marijuana. It was a 6-hour long panic attack for me. Similar to the author of this, I read for years of how "the only way it could ever harm you is if you were crushed by 100 lbs of it" on sites like Reddit. It wasn't until after getting high that I heard about marijuana amplifying stress tendencies in a minority of people. I've always been high strung, and maybe…

First time I tried it, I didn't know what I was doing, and smoked half a joint. I figured it was like cigarettes - you're supposed to smoke the whole thing, but I had some presence of mind to just try half.

That night I was basically paralyzed. It wasn't a bad experience, but I was not ready for it to be that powerful.

Since then I've just being using gummies. You can dose 5mg or 10mg which is plenty for me to just have a good feeling and still fully function. I've also noticed that different strands affect me way different. I may become sleepy, or really happy and giddy, or totally calm and cool, or motivated, or just a nice elated feeling, or combinations of those and more.

There's the whole sativa/indica thing, but I feel like the market just guesses what their strand is because 1) The feelings are still super random within the same type and 2) There are way too many types of "feelings" to just binary classify with.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by willio58 »

CyberRabbi wrote: post #62

The popular LSD and psychadelic advocacy online and elsewhere is an expression of the mainstream ideology. The foundation of our collective ideology tells us these drugs should have some profound life-altering and improving effect. Obviously, when examined critically, the premise is ridiculous on its face. Everyone I know who regularly does these types of drugs is not really doing much else with their lives. As for S…

You seem to have heard one extreme, that cannabis cures diseases, and you’ve snapped back to the other extreme where you state there is no such thing as a medical use of cannabis. Have you seen the studies? Have you looked into CBD?

Yes, there’s a lot of exaggeration if you’re listening to some person who knows nothing about science, but there are true benefits with it as well. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water as they say.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by atoav »

As someone who tried LSD before this post is a reminder that it is not a good idea to take LSD if you are already sort of anxious, stressed, in a bad spot or what not. LSD is nothing for people who are in danger of putting themselves into negative spirals. E.g. the visual snow becoming stronger is something that can frighten you, or you could just let it wash over and start to worry if it is still there after a week. These things are a bit like being a kid on a bicycle: without experience you ride where you look — and if you look at a tree, that is a sure way to ride directly into it.

I experienced some effects of my first dose for 4 days after that everything was back to normal, except that I had gained an outside view onto my life that remained truly valuable up to this day.

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Post by pantalaimon »

code51 wrote: post #66

I find it so ironic that on one hand, we are placing great value on achieving consciousness with artificial intelligence and yet, we place so little value on our own. If this "consciousness" thing is so hard to get, then why do we try our best to get rid of it through alcohol, recreational drugs etc ?

That’s not how psychedelics work

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Post by marketneutral »

mberning wrote: post #28

I have had really, really bad trips on weed and alcohol. No way in hell I am trying anything else. It makes me really uneasy to hear normies going on about trying this and that. They all have some vague yet beneficial reasoning for why they did or might try shrooms or LSD. I always ask them, tell me of somebody that significantly and measurably improved their life after getting involved with psychedelics. Nobody ever…

“since no one can provide an example to me in person, on command, it must not be possible for anyone”

take me as your first anecdotal example of someone whose life has been significantly and measurably improved since taking psychedelics. there goes your entire argument.

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Post by jimnotgym »

It is interesting that the person went into trying LSD fully expecting it to be a negative experience. Could this be a self-fulfilling prophecy?

I know little about drugs, and have never tried LSD. I have watched paramedics on television trying hard to put a patient in a positive frame of mind before administering ketamin. Could this be similar?

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by geraldyo »

slibhb wrote: post #49
PuppyTailWags wrote: post #24

I think it's useful to consider this blog post as an anecdotal experience of someone who had a significant, traumatic experience with LSD for which they were entirely socially unprepared for even when those those experiences seemed to be known among those who take LSD (no one expressed surprise or confusion at their condition in their group). There is plenty of questions to ask here: why didn't this person's friends…

I've noticed this pattern where "anecdote" is deployed when someone disagrees with some point another person is making. But would you be chiming in here about "anecdotes" if this was a post by someone claiming acid helped them?

The post concludes that promoting LSD through anecdotal evidence is "harmful" and "naive" while condemning LSD through anecdotal evidence. I've had good experiences with hallucinogenics and think they're a societal net-positive, but if this post was promoting LSD based on a good trip with good results, it'd be equally bad. Maybe even more so.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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Post by x86x87 »

tptacek wrote: post #85
x86x87 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol. Tylenol is over the counter and the wrong dose can literary kill your liver. Do you have links to those studies? I'm curious. I've tried Ashwagandha and stopped as it seemed to make me more anxious but YMMV.

Bleach will kill you, too. But unlike bleach, Tylenol is carefully regulated as a medication; in particular, it's packaged at precise dosages, with high quality control standards.

Are you saying bleach is not carefully regulated?

My point was that we are commonly using medication that can have devastating effects - and the precise dosages do not account for the imprecise body weight and sensitivity to the substance of the person taking it.

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