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Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by zagrebian »

pjerem wrote: post #104
zagrebian wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. A website that induces eyestrain and headaches in some people is not fully accessible, unless the user has an easy way to switch to a simpler design. Browsers have reader modes, but the website in question is not compatible with them.

As someone who suffers from strong eyestrain issues, I strongly disagree. There are an infinite number of possible disabilities. Most disabled people already have tools to accommodate. If you can't see little things, you can zoom. If you have issue with poor contrasts, you can configure your display and/or your browser and/or your OS. If you can't see anything, you can use screen readers. If you have issues with low…

How can a user with eyestrain issues change the colors of a website?

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by hairofadog »

nkrisc wrote: post #99

Couldn't actually read for very long. The content scrolling over the static background image gave me motion sickness. The 1980s theme was the only one I could stand, and the 1990s theme appears to be the same as the Tropical Days theme. All the ones with the background are essentially unusable for me. It's their site, they can do whatever they want, but it's a bit silly to act like there's something wrong with anyone…

> I find the snark about it off-putting

Same. I think this is one of those things where they were having some fun, and then some people on the Internet overreacted with great hyperbole, and so they're issuing this response to those people, but I'm sitting here reading it and it feels aggressive, and I think, "Wait, what did I do? I'm just sitting here not bothering anybody", and it begins to feel like a low-level conflict. I think a lot of internet discourse is like that, unfortunately.

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by cush »

catapart wrote: post #78
msoad wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me out-snob you and say those are called elements not tags.

I don't know what I said that was snobby? I replied to their article based on the points they made in said article. That aside, yes, I was wrong to use it like "[...] in the `article` tag."; well spotted.

It's all satire

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by unosama »

capableweb wrote: post #20
8ig8 wrote: post #15

> You agree not to use the content to train AI systems or machine learning systems. https://research.exoticsilicon.com/terms First I’ve seen that.

Seems unlikely to be enforceable as "overly expansive", as someone could surely argue our brains are just AI and/or ML but in organic form. Does that mean I'm not allowed to learn from the website?

Neural networks are modeled of human brains in some ways but the majority of AI is not and humans just anthropomorphize the results. Humans don't take in terabytes of data and spend hours fitting a multidimensional regression between labels and the raw data. We build logical connections to understand things over continued exposure. Just because AI "feels" human does not mean it approaches anything actually resembling a human mind. What holds us back from understanding this in the legal system is the fact that lawyers and judges are so technically illiterate.

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by catapart »

nkrisc wrote: post #99

Couldn't actually read for very long. The content scrolling over the static background image gave me motion sickness. The 1980s theme was the only one I could stand, and the 1990s theme appears to be the same as the Tropical Days theme. All the ones with the background are essentially unusable for me. It's their site, they can do whatever they want, but it's a bit silly to act like there's something wrong with anyone…

Aye. Big "we have a developer that knows CSS" vibes, rather than "we have a designer" energy. Feels like someone should have told them the pitfalls of chasing a design that was hand-crafted for a specific format (print media; magazines, specifically), or at least why the choices that were made for that medium were made, and why they may cause issues in this medium. For that kind of stuff, though, you need someone who has a deep knowledge of design, rather than just a high skill at implementing designs.

Of course, with such an obviously high skill at design implementation, they did plenty enough to be perfectly fine for most use-cases, so it's hard to be too hard on them about any of their choices. Everything works just fine. And to ignore complaints that ignore your design choices is a fine disposition, as well! No reason to bother with people who aren't interested in your vision and don't contribute.

But to snark about the complaints, as if there's nothing you could do better? Smacks of an aloofness that is an off-putting characteristic for an organizations purporting to do research.

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by pjerem »

zagrebian wrote: post #111
pjerem wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who suffers from strong eyestrain issues, I strongly disagree. There are an infinite number of possible disabilities. Most disabled people already have tools to accommodate. If you can't see little things, you can zoom. If you have issue with poor contrasts, you can configure your display and/or your browser and/or your OS. If you can't see anything, you can use screen readers. If you have issues with low…

How can a user with eyestrain issues change the colors of a website?

It depends on your own issue but :

- https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/font-contrast-fi...

- https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/darkreader

Or anything that can change or override the default browser style-sheet. Be it yourself if you are technical savvy enough or a tool.

It can also just be your monitor settings if it suits you.

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by xeetzer »

midenginedcoupe wrote: post #53

Reminds me of Lings Cars: https://www.lingscars.com/ Not a niche or hobbyist website, but a genuine car leasing company. Who's owner deliberately styled the site like this to act as a differentiator in a crowded market. It's certainly unique, I'll give them that.

This one is actually great though.

Re: Replying to comments about our web page design

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Post by cush »

ryandrake wrote: post #73

Call me old fashioned, but web sites that overdo the CSS and assert a strong design opinion just kind of annoy me now. I wish we could go back to a WWW where the browser was the user agent and the user was the authority on text size, font face, colors and so on. Browsers have devolved from applications allowing users to browse hyperTEXT into these free-for-all canvases for web designers’ creativity. Technically this…

Another wonderful internet fart in the wind is bidirectional links

https://maggieappleton.com/bidirectionals

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