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Re: Layout 2013 and Layout 2020

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Really? The spec might maybe be hard? Perhaps? I don't know for sure. But there is a long long long legacy of CSS Acid Tests that have been very well established & expected, that should guide most implementations to success. I forget what it's called but a bunch of the major browsers get together each year & find a couple things to agree to focus on & make happen each year. Trying to just play catchup & go through th…

The old Web Standards Compliance Acid Tests aren't used by implementors.

Do you have any references or links or whatnot to support this? I thought css group was still big into testing. They're no longer called acid tests but I thought it was all still alive & well.

Re: Layout 2013 and Layout 2020

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"PWAs are essentially dead"?!? They haven't replaced native apps for sure but I think it's a pretty major stretch to call them done and dusted

From a engineer mind share pov they are. Users don't use them. Engineers do not build them. They are stillborn and i don't see a way out.

I think the expectation that tech wins & is everywhere in 5 years is murdering useful progress. It's not the climate we are in any more. Success is slow boiling, especially for web standards.

The lack of empathy for how long change takes keeps letting doom & gloomers send good things to the graveyard.

Re: Layout 2013 and Layout 2020

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The old Web Standards Compliance Acid Tests aren't used by implementors.

Do you have any references or links or whatnot to support this? I thought css group was still big into testing. They're no longer called acid tests but I thought it was all still alive & well.

They are, they just don't use the Acid 1, 2, or 3 tests that you're familiar with. They currently use a manual test suite, which requires humans to look at reference output and compare it to what the rasterizer and compositor are doing.
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