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Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by midwesternerer » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:13 AM UTC

midwesternerer wrote: post #110

wldcordeiro wrote: post #105

It's funny Youtube Music was mentioned because Google Play Music was actually great for listening to your music and having a curated library of stuff you uploaded along with the music on the service. When they killed that in favor of Youtube Music I noticed the "library" experience there is seemingly intentionally hobbled. The artist page is sorted by the "artist" field not "album artist" and then on top of that inst…

YouTube music is awful. I hate how everything is organized. Is it even possible to search your library? I haven't figured out the actual point of adding anything to your library because searching takes you to all available options every time. And it is never sorted the way you want. For example, if you search an artist, you get their top three albums, but then you have to click into it and search for the one album yo…

Oh, I just figured out how to search my library. But I'll still argue that the button for it is not intuitive at all.

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by jrm4 » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:14 AM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #42

Use mpd and call it a day. https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/hiy7gs/guide_to...

I'd recommend mstream over mpd big-time. MPD is the curse of choice.

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by jrm4 » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:16 AM UTC

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #9

Emby can stream without a subscription. But why does the author hate algorithms so much? Spotify has great recommendations.

I very much hate them. I know I'm going be the old man yelling at clouds on this one, but I genuinely believe that algorithms are garbage "curators" and no substitute for individual humans (DJs, radio show people) with taste, because algos can (and will) be gamed.

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by ThrowawayTestr » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:18 AM UTC

dfcowell wrote: post #47

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #9

Emby can stream without a subscription. But why does the author hate algorithms so much? Spotify has great recommendations.

I’m not the author, but I’ve gone down the same path as them (Plex + ripped CDs.) My breaking point was when - as a premium subscriber already - Spotify insisted on promoting their family plan, Taylor Swift’s new album and whatever the flavor of the current week was via full-screen modal popups in the app with no way to prevent them. I asked support several times and was told they didn’t have a toggle. I tried moving…

I use an old version of the android client and don't see any of that stuff.

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by leethomas » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:19 AM UTC

Yup, Plex is the way to go for me too. I use plexamp as my client and it's been a wonderful experience. Really love the sonic analysis features, especially the guest DJs.

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by Minor49er » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:20 AM UTC

VonGuard wrote: post #52

rolenthedeep wrote: post #25

I use Jellyfin, it's about the same thing as Plex, but free. I host it on my homelab along with a half dozen other services, and I can stream any of my media from anywhere. There's even pretty nice third-party clients. I use finamp on android, it's specifically a music player frontend for jellyfin, and has options to download your files and play offline. So far, the biggest problem is simply learning how to find musi…

Would you believe that SoulSeek is still a thing? It is. P2P 4evah.

You can find damn near everything on Soulseek. It can't be beaten

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by ThrowawayTestr » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:20 AM UTC

jrm4 wrote: post #113

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #9

Emby can stream without a subscription. But why does the author hate algorithms so much? Spotify has great recommendations.

I very much hate them. I know I'm going be the old man yelling at clouds on this one, but I genuinely believe that algorithms are garbage "curators" and no substitute for individual humans (DJs, radio show people) with taste, because algos can (and will) be gamed.

There is no human with music tastes as specific as mine besides me. But an algo can take all of my listening history and recommend whole genres I didn't even know about. I don't think Spotify's is one that can be gamed.

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by nickspacek » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:21 AM UTC

wanderingmind wrote: post #108

christoph wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jellyfin is excellent. Swapped to it from Plex about a year ago. Haven't looked back once. I run the server on an old M1 Mac Mini, it's the first time I've felt I have my own personal Netflix. I can stream 40gb 4k HDR Atmos rips to old stereo 1080p plasmas with ancient Firesticks (on wifi) in bedrooms in my house with almost zero delay, even when fast forwarding, and getting near realtime frame previews as you skip.…

have you been able to work out how to stream when you are not in LAN, like with tailscale or other overlay network?

Mine just works with Wireguard. I took a couple extra steps to make it convenient:

1. Public DNS entry gives jump box IP. With some http forwarding the Letsencrypt flow initiated from the internal Jellyfin server.

2. My Wireguard server (running on the jump box) runs dnsmasq and answers DNS queries for wireguard clients with the wireguard IP for the Jellyfin server.

3. DNS server on the home network gives those internal clients the local IP.

Works great now; obviously not plug and play but I had fun setting it up.

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by sen » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:23 AM UTC

tastysandwich wrote: post #82

Oh man I thought I was the only one who still had a carefully curated digital library... I threw out my CDs a long time ago, but my digital library is my baby. I've been curating this since I was 10. It's who I am! Most of the time, you only need to listen to music on your phone or your computer, right? My main collection (mostly FLAC) is on a NAS with RAID. But then I've got some scripts that maintain a copy of that…

> Oh man I thought I was the only one who still had a carefully curated digital library... I threw out my CDs a long time ago, but my digital library is my baby. I've been curating this since I was 10. It's who I am!

You’re definitely not alone. I’ve been collecting MP3s since they first began, choosing 1-2 songs a night to leave downloading over dialup. I still have ever MP3 I ever downloaded short of deleting the files from that period where you’d download a song on IRC and it’d be something else named wrong on purpose.

I do use Apple Music for my family/kids, but my MP3 collection is one of my prized possessions and the basis of nearly all my daily music listening.

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by ThrowawayTestr » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 2:23 AM UTC

yesco wrote: post #21

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #9

Emby can stream without a subscription. But why does the author hate algorithms so much? Spotify has great recommendations.

>Spotify has great recommendations. For some people Spotify absolutely does not have good recommendations, at least that has been my experience

You gotta work with the algo. Sometimes if you only listen to one genre for a while it gets stuck in a rut. It does get annoying when it keeps playing the same song I've only listened to once and then skipped every other time.